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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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My '99 WS-6 has some pretty good mods now - 224/230 cam that I'm told should just squeak by smog, LS6 intake and AFR 205 heads. Now I want to do something about my constipation, since I still have the stock exhaust. Since I'm in CA, I'll have to pass visual smog inspection, and I figure I'm limited to shorty headers. What else can I do? I'm thinking about some hi-flo cats and maybe a better Y-pipe. A cat-back system would also be nice, but I don't want to go too loud, since my wife drives the car sometimes and my neighbors like quiet.

Anyhow, I would welcome some suggestions from other CA members based on their experience.
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Originally Posted by 30th droptop
Hi,

My '99 WS-6 has some pretty good mods now - 224/230 cam that I'm told should just squeak by smog, LS6 intake and AFR 205 heads. Now I want to do something about my constipation, since I still have the stock exhaust. Since I'm in CA, I'll have to pass visual smog inspection, and I figure I'm limited to shorty headers. What else can I do? I'm thinking about some hi-flo cats and maybe a better Y-pipe. A cat-back system would also be nice, but I don't want to go too loud, since my wife drives the car sometimes and my neighbors like quiet.

Anyhow, I would welcome some suggestions from other CA members based on their experience.
i have some shorties for sale...cheap...check out my sig...just get the gutted cats as well...then put on a maganflow for the queitness part...then add an eletric cutout for ur sake when u r driving on the weekends...and if any cop looks under ur car...everything seems to look normal...stock cats (even though they r gutted, he cant tell)...u have a muffler, no long tubes...got a carb# on the headers

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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
Mac mid's should free up a lil more power for you and still remain legal.
i am pretty sure they are illegal because they move the cats. But does anyone know people who get away with using them as long as they have cats and all the air ang egr?
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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Didn't that dude with the black firebird just put them on and say they were legal?

Oh well. Then the OP will have one of two options:

Edelbrock (or co. of choice), SLP 2.5 Y-pipe, and high flow cats.

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Go old school find a (look the other way guy) and go full on LT's, ORY, (maybe gutted or HF cats to ward off nosey officers)
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 180ls1
i am pretty sure they are illegal because they move the cats. But does anyone know people who get away with using them as long as they have cats and all the air ang egr?
You are correct, mids are illegal still, just as much as long tubes. There are shops out there that will pass you with mids/LT's as long as you have in-tact cats and the rest of the emmissions equipment, so I've heard.

Your best bet is (I guess) going to be shortys to a 2.5" y-pipe. Bullet muffler after the merge then maybe a couple more before it exits the rear of the car. That should keep u legal and quiet while giving u some more breathing room. Don't expect the kind of power the guys with bigger headers are getting. I'm thinkin u should've went with a cam that was designed for stock manifolds/shorties.
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Cheater/reverse split cam ftmfw
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lol i think it would just be cheeper to take it to someone that will pass u for sure. like i think it would be $200 or cheaper
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^^^ Cheaper. $150.
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
^^^ Cheaper. $150.
humm u got a guy?
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Maybe.......
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
Maybe.......
ill beat u to the punch, i actually found a guy that said he will do mine for $60 no lie!! but that guy will remain anonymous
or he might be caught soon lol
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Go with MAC mid lengths & a cut-out, It will sound mighty fine..lol..Oh yeah, screw the neighbors..haha
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ill beat u to the punch, i actually found a guy that said he will do mine for $60 no lie!! but that guy will remain anonymous
or he might be caught soon lol
Oh ****, wanna borrow my car for the day when smog come around? LOL
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Originally Posted by djsanchez2
Oh ****, wanna borrow my car for the day when smog come around? LOL
o wow sounds like fun, but this is one of those guys thats like a buddy of a friend and blah blah so on, so i have to contact a few people to get to him u know
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Originally Posted by cruiSSin LS1
i have some shorties for sale...cheap...check out my sig...just get the gutted cats as well...then put on a maganflow for the queitness part...then add an eletric cutout for ur sake when u r driving on the weekends...and if any cop looks under ur car...everything seems to look normal...stock cats (even though they r gutted, he cant tell)...u have a muffler, no long tubes...got a carb# on the headers
I also have some shorties off a 2000 that I am looking to get rid of, but if he wants to pass the underhood visual inspection they will not work on his '99. Ask me how I know lol
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shorties, cats, magnaflow with a cutout
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Thanks for the suggestions. I would like to buy shortys from someone, but it looks like the 2 sets offered were for a 2000. My '99 needs different AIR/EGR flanges.
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 01:31 AM
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Shorties are a waste of time, money and resources, Mids are still considered illegal so I would just jump to full blown LT's and a catted or ORY...

Call a few shops make a few friends and smog will no longer be an issue...

With a catted Y pipe the car would still pass smog just look for a lazy smog operator who just throws it on the dyno and runs it...
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for a catback i have a TSP rumbler and i love it.
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Pacesetter has a set of "mids" that are legal. I quote mids b/c that's what they call them, not sure if they're comparable to what other manufacturers call "mids".
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