Local shops...
****, the ultimate **** talker here and I'm speechless. From a ls1techer stand point who the **** cares? Take your **** to wherever you want or feel your getting a better deal or whatever. End of story. **** if you have a problem with their cars or think they are slow then race em, its that simple. If not and your just being a fan boy then 
****, the ultimate **** talker here and I'm speechless. From a ls1techer stand point who the **** cares? Take your **** to wherever you want or feel your getting a better deal or whatever. End of story. **** if you have a problem with their cars or think they are slow then race em, its that simple. If not and your just being a fan boy then
This thread is scary.
To CMS... The reaction of some-one beating your price was completely immature. First you attack his credibility by calling out his porter...(when clearly the flow numbers, dyno numbers, AND track times.. blah blah, prove their potency).
Then you attack his prices... It happens in this business, and you are clearly upset that some-one with a more established shop (not insulting yours, but 7+ years is substantial over one year) can beat your prices. Perhaps it is something you need to take with a grain of salt. Generally in this industry you have opportunities and better buying power for buy-ins with more experience. I'm fighting this all the time with my shop, but alas, if you build a quality product, and eventually have the opportunity to purchase a larger buy-in for better jobber pricing.
When you are a young business, you need to cut into your profits. Until you achieve a consistent, and very reputable name, you cannot overcharge your product. As much as it has burned me, I have price matched to get the work in the door so I can get more of my engines on the street. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this industry, as once a potential customer realized that, you will get more income, and be able to afford lower prices.
I also offer a large discount when some-one lets us do all of the work for you. The more parts you can sell, the more profit off of them you can achieve. I may be rambling here, but there is a reason why Rob is providing a much lower price.
To the potential customer: Talk to both companies and have a conversation with them. After expressing your concerns, go with the shop you feel most comfortable with. When spending 3k+ (potentially) I would also recommend visiting both locations to see exactly where your car is going and who is doing the work. Even if one shop is much further... a tank of gas is a good investment.
-Kyle
To CMS... The reaction of some-one beating your price was completely immature. First you attack his credibility by calling out his porter...(when clearly the flow numbers, dyno numbers, AND track times.. blah blah, prove their potency).
Then you attack his prices... It happens in this business, and you are clearly upset that some-one with a more established shop (not insulting yours, but 7+ years is substantial over one year) can beat your prices. Perhaps it is something you need to take with a grain of salt. Generally in this industry you have opportunities and better buying power for buy-ins with more experience. I'm fighting this all the time with my shop, but alas, if you build a quality product, and eventually have the opportunity to purchase a larger buy-in for better jobber pricing.
When you are a young business, you need to cut into your profits. Until you achieve a consistent, and very reputable name, you cannot overcharge your product. As much as it has burned me, I have price matched to get the work in the door so I can get more of my engines on the street. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this industry, as once a potential customer realized that, you will get more income, and be able to afford lower prices.
I also offer a large discount when some-one lets us do all of the work for you. The more parts you can sell, the more profit off of them you can achieve. I may be rambling here, but there is a reason why Rob is providing a much lower price.
To the potential customer: Talk to both companies and have a conversation with them. After expressing your concerns, go with the shop you feel most comfortable with. When spending 3k+ (potentially) I would also recommend visiting both locations to see exactly where your car is going and who is doing the work. Even if one shop is much further... a tank of gas is a good investment.
-Kyle
You have to applaud Ryne for having the ***** to put his prices out there first, for everyone to undercut (legitimately or not), for the mere appearance that their shop is better based solely on price. The only reason you do that is because you're confident you are charging a fair price.
Personally, there are some things I buy on price, others I buy on reputation, word of mouth, warranty level, comfort, etc.
For example, I don't buy my suits at Wal-Mart, I don't buy my cologne at the swap meet, I don't buy my 3 yr. old toys at the 99cent Store, and I don't get my prostate checked in Tijuana (unless you talk about that one time with that hooker, but that's a different story).
I don't know Rob, but I know Ryne, what he's done, and what he can do, and that's where I take my car.
Personally, there are some things I buy on price, others I buy on reputation, word of mouth, warranty level, comfort, etc.
For example, I don't buy my suits at Wal-Mart, I don't buy my cologne at the swap meet, I don't buy my 3 yr. old toys at the 99cent Store, and I don't get my prostate checked in Tijuana (unless you talk about that one time with that hooker, but that's a different story).
I don't know Rob, but I know Ryne, what he's done, and what he can do, and that's where I take my car.
Last edited by BigDaddyBry; Aug 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM.
This thread is scary.
To CMS... The reaction of some-one beating your price was completely immature. First you attack his credibility by calling out his porter...(when clearly the flow numbers, dyno numbers, AND track times.. blah blah, prove their potency).
Then you attack his prices... It happens in this business, and you are clearly upset that some-one with a more established shop (not insulting yours, but 7+ years is substantial over one year) can beat your prices. Perhaps it is something you need to take with a grain of salt. Generally in this industry you have opportunities and better buying power for buy-ins with more experience. I'm fighting this all the time with my shop, but alas, if you build a quality product, and eventually have the opportunity to purchase a larger buy-in for better jobber pricing.
When you are a young business, you need to cut into your profits. Until you achieve a consistent, and very reputable name, you cannot overcharge your product. As much as it has burned me, I have price matched to get the work in the door so I can get more of my engines on the street. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this industry, as once a potential customer realized that, you will get more income, and be able to afford lower prices.
I also offer a large discount when some-one lets us do all of the work for you. The more parts you can sell, the more profit off of them you can achieve. I may be rambling here, but there is a reason why Rob is providing a much lower price.
To the potential customer: Talk to both companies and have a conversation with them. After expressing your concerns, go with the shop you feel most comfortable with. When spending 3k+ (potentially) I would also recommend visiting both locations to see exactly where your car is going and who is doing the work. Even if one shop is much further... a tank of gas is a good investment.
-Kyle
To CMS... The reaction of some-one beating your price was completely immature. First you attack his credibility by calling out his porter...(when clearly the flow numbers, dyno numbers, AND track times.. blah blah, prove their potency).
Then you attack his prices... It happens in this business, and you are clearly upset that some-one with a more established shop (not insulting yours, but 7+ years is substantial over one year) can beat your prices. Perhaps it is something you need to take with a grain of salt. Generally in this industry you have opportunities and better buying power for buy-ins with more experience. I'm fighting this all the time with my shop, but alas, if you build a quality product, and eventually have the opportunity to purchase a larger buy-in for better jobber pricing.
When you are a young business, you need to cut into your profits. Until you achieve a consistent, and very reputable name, you cannot overcharge your product. As much as it has burned me, I have price matched to get the work in the door so I can get more of my engines on the street. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this industry, as once a potential customer realized that, you will get more income, and be able to afford lower prices.
I also offer a large discount when some-one lets us do all of the work for you. The more parts you can sell, the more profit off of them you can achieve. I may be rambling here, but there is a reason why Rob is providing a much lower price.
To the potential customer: Talk to both companies and have a conversation with them. After expressing your concerns, go with the shop you feel most comfortable with. When spending 3k+ (potentially) I would also recommend visiting both locations to see exactly where your car is going and who is doing the work. Even if one shop is much further... a tank of gas is a good investment.
-Kyle
Let us know where your experience comes from.
You have to applaud Ryne for having the ***** to put his prices out there first, for everyone to undercut (legitimately or not), for the mere appearance that their shop is better based solely on price. The only reason you do that is because you're confident you are charging a fair price.
Personally, there are some things I buy on price, others I buy on reputation, word of mouth, warranty level, comfort, etc.
For example, I don't buy my suits at Wal-Mart, I don't buy my cologne at the swap meet, I don't buy my 3 yr. old toys at the 99cent Store, and I don't get my prostate checked in Tijuana (unless you talk about that one time with that hooker, but that's a different story).
I don't know Rob, but I know Ryne, what he's done, and what he can do, and that's where I take my car.
Personally, there are some things I buy on price, others I buy on reputation, word of mouth, warranty level, comfort, etc.
For example, I don't buy my suits at Wal-Mart, I don't buy my cologne at the swap meet, I don't buy my 3 yr. old toys at the 99cent Store, and I don't get my prostate checked in Tijuana (unless you talk about that one time with that hooker, but that's a different story).
I don't know Rob, but I know Ryne, what he's done, and what he can do, and that's where I take my car.
Last edited by XpEdItIoUs; Aug 9, 2008 at 12:50 PM.
This thread is scary.
To CMS... The reaction of some-one beating your price was completely immature. First you attack his credibility by calling out his porter...(when clearly the flow numbers, dyno numbers, AND track times.. blah blah, prove their potency).
Then you attack his prices... It happens in this business, and you are clearly upset that some-one with a more established shop (not insulting yours, but 7+ years is substantial over one year) can beat your prices. Perhaps it is something you need to take with a grain of salt. Generally in this industry you have opportunities and better buying power for buy-ins with more experience. I'm fighting this all the time with my shop, but alas, if you build a quality product, and eventually have the opportunity to purchase a larger buy-in for better jobber pricing.
When you are a young business, you need to cut into your profits. Until you achieve a consistent, and very reputable name, you cannot overcharge your product. As much as it has burned me, I have price matched to get the work in the door so I can get more of my engines on the street. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this industry, as once a potential customer realized that, you will get more income, and be able to afford lower prices.
I also offer a large discount when some-one lets us do all of the work for you. The more parts you can sell, the more profit off of them you can achieve. I may be rambling here, but there is a reason why Rob is providing a much lower price.
To the potential customer: Talk to both companies and have a conversation with them. After expressing your concerns, go with the shop you feel most comfortable with. When spending 3k+ (potentially) I would also recommend visiting both locations to see exactly where your car is going and who is doing the work. Even if one shop is much further... a tank of gas is a good investment.
-Kyle
To CMS... The reaction of some-one beating your price was completely immature. First you attack his credibility by calling out his porter...(when clearly the flow numbers, dyno numbers, AND track times.. blah blah, prove their potency).
Then you attack his prices... It happens in this business, and you are clearly upset that some-one with a more established shop (not insulting yours, but 7+ years is substantial over one year) can beat your prices. Perhaps it is something you need to take with a grain of salt. Generally in this industry you have opportunities and better buying power for buy-ins with more experience. I'm fighting this all the time with my shop, but alas, if you build a quality product, and eventually have the opportunity to purchase a larger buy-in for better jobber pricing.
When you are a young business, you need to cut into your profits. Until you achieve a consistent, and very reputable name, you cannot overcharge your product. As much as it has burned me, I have price matched to get the work in the door so I can get more of my engines on the street. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this industry, as once a potential customer realized that, you will get more income, and be able to afford lower prices.
I also offer a large discount when some-one lets us do all of the work for you. The more parts you can sell, the more profit off of them you can achieve. I may be rambling here, but there is a reason why Rob is providing a much lower price.
To the potential customer: Talk to both companies and have a conversation with them. After expressing your concerns, go with the shop you feel most comfortable with. When spending 3k+ (potentially) I would also recommend visiting both locations to see exactly where your car is going and who is doing the work. Even if one shop is much further... a tank of gas is a good investment.
-Kyle
Last edited by Ryne @ CMS; Aug 9, 2008 at 01:31 PM.
This thread is scary.
To CMS... The reaction of some-one beating your price was completely immature. First you attack his credibility by calling out his porter...(when clearly the flow numbers, dyno numbers, AND track times.. blah blah, prove their potency).
Then you attack his prices... It happens in this business, and you are clearly upset that some-one with a more established shop (not insulting yours, but 7+ years is substantial over one year) can beat your prices. Perhaps it is something you need to take with a grain of salt. Generally in this industry you have opportunities and better buying power for buy-ins with more experience. I'm fighting this all the time with my shop, but alas, if you build a quality product, and eventually have the opportunity to purchase a larger buy-in for better jobber pricing.
When you are a young business, you need to cut into your profits. Until you achieve a consistent, and very reputable name, you cannot overcharge your product. As much as it has burned me, I have price matched to get the work in the door so I can get more of my engines on the street. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this industry, as once a potential customer realized that, you will get more income, and be able to afford lower prices.
I also offer a large discount when some-one lets us do all of the work for you. The more parts you can sell, the more profit off of them you can achieve. I may be rambling here, but there is a reason why Rob is providing a much lower price.
To the potential customer: Talk to both companies and have a conversation with them. After expressing your concerns, go with the shop you feel most comfortable with. When spending 3k+ (potentially) I would also recommend visiting both locations to see exactly where your car is going and who is doing the work. Even if one shop is much further... a tank of gas is a good investment.
-Kyle
To CMS... The reaction of some-one beating your price was completely immature. First you attack his credibility by calling out his porter...(when clearly the flow numbers, dyno numbers, AND track times.. blah blah, prove their potency).
Then you attack his prices... It happens in this business, and you are clearly upset that some-one with a more established shop (not insulting yours, but 7+ years is substantial over one year) can beat your prices. Perhaps it is something you need to take with a grain of salt. Generally in this industry you have opportunities and better buying power for buy-ins with more experience. I'm fighting this all the time with my shop, but alas, if you build a quality product, and eventually have the opportunity to purchase a larger buy-in for better jobber pricing.
When you are a young business, you need to cut into your profits. Until you achieve a consistent, and very reputable name, you cannot overcharge your product. As much as it has burned me, I have price matched to get the work in the door so I can get more of my engines on the street. Reputation is EVERYTHING in this industry, as once a potential customer realized that, you will get more income, and be able to afford lower prices.
I also offer a large discount when some-one lets us do all of the work for you. The more parts you can sell, the more profit off of them you can achieve. I may be rambling here, but there is a reason why Rob is providing a much lower price.
To the potential customer: Talk to both companies and have a conversation with them. After expressing your concerns, go with the shop you feel most comfortable with. When spending 3k+ (potentially) I would also recommend visiting both locations to see exactly where your car is going and who is doing the work. Even if one shop is much further... a tank of gas is a good investment.
-Kyle
scary compared to what?
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and i think i know a tuner 
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ly+performance
Here is the firt post that came up when i punched 'Strictly Performance' into Corvette Forum
Here is the firt post that came up when i punched 'Strictly Performance' into Corvette Forum
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ly+performance
Here is the firt post that came up when i punched 'Strictly Performance' into Corvette Forum
Here is the firt post that came up when i punched 'Strictly Performance' into Corvette Forum
You love those prostate exams don't you bry, you must go everytime you find a cupon for half off. We all know you buy your suits at a thrift shop called "It's New to You". And get you colognes from those teens that stop you in the streets of LA and ask what kind of cologne you use. Oh and that hooker that checked your prostate in TJ that one time, He was half way through medical school before he quit and decided to change his career, So it counts.
And advice to the uninformed: always "check the oil" on your hooker.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...ly+performance
Here is the firt post that came up when i punched 'Strictly Performance' into Corvette Forum
Here is the firt post that came up when i punched 'Strictly Performance' into Corvette Forum
Agreed. Come on will, you of all people am surprised would post that since the guy didn't go into heavy detail about exactly what they did/didn't do to his car to mess it up. Its just a bunch of "yeah they suck, they ripped me off, they are ******** and don't know how to work on vettes!" bs. Rob did build a 427 LS6 1000hp C5 Z06 not too long ago.
God damn bry you should write a book about hookers, you are a perfect example of middle aged fat white guys loving hookers lol. Was that you on cops last week?
Agreed. Come on will, you of all people am surprised would post that since the guy didn't go into heavy detail about exactly what they did/didn't do to his car to mess it up. Its just a bunch of "yeah they suck, they ripped me off, they are ******** and don't know how to work on vettes!" bs. Rob did build a 427 LS6 1000hp C5 Z06 not too long ago.
you know what i love about you ryan, last night you are all nice to my face, but the minute i leave you talk all this crap about me to everyone there....... why dont you discuss your issues with me to my face? i am sure we can have a mature conversation with your issues with me, instead of you being a backstabber. as far as corvetteforum all being ******** or whatever...... yeah ryan you are strong role model for all the f-body owners yourself, i wonder what the vette guys say about someone like you? "damn f-body owners , 16 years old talking like they are big bad drag racers, while buying shortblocks with their grandpa's money"
