Ms3 vs. Trex
09-12-2008, 04:07 PM
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can someone pm me and let me in on the secret as to how you can go with a trex or ms3/4 in california?
other than the obvious concern of smog, if ca ever gets its budget straightened out and cops are free to send people to the state ref, wouldn't the cammed sound result in a popped hood?
other than the obvious concern of smog, if ca ever gets its budget straightened out and cops are free to send people to the state ref, wouldn't the cammed sound result in a popped hood?
09-12-2008, 04:53 PM
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can someone pm me and let me in on the secret as to how you can go with a trex or ms3/4 in california?
other than the obvious concern of smog, if ca ever gets its budget straightened out and cops are free to send people to the state ref, wouldn't the cammed sound result in a popped hood?
other than the obvious concern of smog, if ca ever gets its budget straightened out and cops are free to send people to the state ref, wouldn't the cammed sound result in a popped hood?
09-12-2008, 10:41 PM
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can someone pm me and let me in on the secret as to how you can go with a trex or ms3/4 in california?
other than the obvious concern of smog, if ca ever gets its budget straightened out and cops are free to send people to the state ref, wouldn't the cammed sound result in a popped hood?
other than the obvious concern of smog, if ca ever gets its budget straightened out and cops are free to send people to the state ref, wouldn't the cammed sound result in a popped hood?
thought the ref thing was done away with.....
honestly it seems like only spiky haird kids in ek/eg hatchs and sti's get pulled over and fuct with...i had santa ana pd tell me my car sounded good...after letting me off with a verbal waring for rippin up broadway again....even got thumbs up....
09-13-2008, 02:43 AM
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I was dead set on an MS3, but i went with a Comp Cam instead because of the drivability aspect and i didnt want to go over 600 lift with the stock heads.
09-15-2008, 09:02 PM
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I daily drive a h/c bird in socal with an MS3.
The car is still to loud though. But I don't have cats so that makes it worse. I'm trying to find a decent way to quiet her up without sacrificing a ton of power(or sound quality). I might do some sort of true duals 4 inline mufflers or something.
I've got 1 exhaust ticket so far. Ended up costing me about 500 bucks. I've been pulled over several other times and let go, with a warning.
Most of the cops around here dont seem to bash on the American cars. Seems like the kids in loud imports get the brute of it. I drive gently on city streets though so that might help.
The best is when a cop tells you your car sounds good. lol, yet it still makes you wonder if they'd pull you over if you got your car over 3k rpms. Anything over 3k is an instant cop supermagnet.
The car is still to loud though. But I don't have cats so that makes it worse. I'm trying to find a decent way to quiet her up without sacrificing a ton of power(or sound quality). I might do some sort of true duals 4 inline mufflers or something.
I've got 1 exhaust ticket so far. Ended up costing me about 500 bucks. I've been pulled over several other times and let go, with a warning.
Most of the cops around here dont seem to bash on the American cars. Seems like the kids in loud imports get the brute of it. I drive gently on city streets though so that might help.
The best is when a cop tells you your car sounds good. lol, yet it still makes you wonder if they'd pull you over if you got your car over 3k rpms. Anything over 3k is an instant cop supermagnet.
09-15-2008, 09:17 PM
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I daily drive a h/c bird in socal with an MS3.
The car is still to loud though. But I don't have cats so that makes it worse. I'm trying to find a decent way to quiet her up without sacrificing a ton of power(or sound quality). I might do some sort of true duals 4 inline mufflers or something.
I've got 1 exhaust ticket so far. Ended up costing me about 500 bucks. I've been pulled over several other times and let go, with a warning.
Most of the cops around here dont seem to bash on the American cars. Seems like the kids in loud imports get the brute of it. I drive gently on city streets though so that might help.
The best is when a cop tells you your car sounds good. lol, yet it still makes you wonder if they'd pull you over if you got your car over 3k rpms. Anything over 3k is an instant cop supermagnet.
The car is still to loud though. But I don't have cats so that makes it worse. I'm trying to find a decent way to quiet her up without sacrificing a ton of power(or sound quality). I might do some sort of true duals 4 inline mufflers or something.
I've got 1 exhaust ticket so far. Ended up costing me about 500 bucks. I've been pulled over several other times and let go, with a warning.
Most of the cops around here dont seem to bash on the American cars. Seems like the kids in loud imports get the brute of it. I drive gently on city streets though so that might help.
The best is when a cop tells you your car sounds good. lol, yet it still makes you wonder if they'd pull you over if you got your car over 3k rpms. Anything over 3k is an instant cop supermagnet.
09-15-2008, 09:34 PM
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I daily drive a h/c bird in socal with an MS3.
The car is still to loud though. But I don't have cats so that makes it worse. I'm trying to find a decent way to quiet her up without sacrificing a ton of power(or sound quality). I might do some sort of true duals 4 inline mufflers or something.
I've got 1 exhaust ticket so far. Ended up costing me about 500 bucks. I've been pulled over several other times and let go, with a warning.
Most of the cops around here dont seem to bash on the American cars. Seems like the kids in loud imports get the brute of it. I drive gently on city streets though so that might help.
The best is when a cop tells you your car sounds good. lol, yet it still makes you wonder if they'd pull you over if you got your car over 3k rpms. Anything over 3k is an instant cop supermagnet.
The car is still to loud though. But I don't have cats so that makes it worse. I'm trying to find a decent way to quiet her up without sacrificing a ton of power(or sound quality). I might do some sort of true duals 4 inline mufflers or something.
I've got 1 exhaust ticket so far. Ended up costing me about 500 bucks. I've been pulled over several other times and let go, with a warning.
Most of the cops around here dont seem to bash on the American cars. Seems like the kids in loud imports get the brute of it. I drive gently on city streets though so that might help.
The best is when a cop tells you your car sounds good. lol, yet it still makes you wonder if they'd pull you over if you got your car over 3k rpms. Anything over 3k is an instant cop supermagnet.
Ryne@CMS built the exhaust...its a 3" Y, into a 4" over the axle, into a single Magnaflow muffler(Single 4"in dual 3" out) and out the rear in the stock location. The only way you can tell it doesnt run cats is the smell.
09-15-2008, 09:38 PM
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Yeah, but duals just sound better even quiet! So I figure if I'm going to spend the money again, mine as well do it right this time with the duals.
I even added a 28' bullet in the I pipe. Sure it quieted it down a bit. But it's still well over 100db at 2500 lol.
Maybe I should just put cats back on the bitch. Arg money money money money. I just had to buy heads AGAIN! Rofl.
I even added a 28' bullet in the I pipe. Sure it quieted it down a bit. But it's still well over 100db at 2500 lol.
Maybe I should just put cats back on the bitch. Arg money money money money. I just had to buy heads AGAIN! Rofl.
09-15-2008, 09:47 PM
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Yeah, but duals just sound better even quiet! So I figure if I'm going to spend the money again, mine as well do it right this time with the duals.
I even added a 28' bullet in the I pipe. Sure it quieted it down a bit. But it's still well over 100db at 2500 lol.
Maybe I should just put cats back on the bitch. Arg money money money money. I just had to buy heads AGAIN! Rofl.
I even added a 28' bullet in the I pipe. Sure it quieted it down a bit. But it's still well over 100db at 2500 lol.
Maybe I should just put cats back on the bitch. Arg money money money money. I just had to buy heads AGAIN! Rofl.
09-15-2008, 10:01 PM
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Thats true duals sound sweet but you are pretty limited to your muffler selection and round mufflers wont get that quiet without cats...well if you are ever interested and see a red LS1 WS6 at a meet hit me up and ill fire it up for ya. It surprised both me and Ryne how mellow it was.
09-15-2008, 11:14 PM
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someone just Pmed me about camshafts, i always suggest something around a 232ish duration, because they might sacrifice about 5 to 10 peak , but make more everywhere in the powerband on these stock headed ls1's. you have to realize that when you run such a large cam in these stock compression motors it shoots your DCR to **** and torque/ midrange power suffers
no offense george, but you are WAY off. My car drives way better then yours does and I have a HUGE cam by your standards. Once you get your car tuned. you will realize that you can have some camshaft without losing too much driveability
and BTW, a mid size cam will NEVER make the same power as a large cam. no way around it.
the only reason they are selling them is bc they are going bigger!
and BTW, a mid size cam will NEVER make the same power as a large cam. no way around it.
the only reason they are selling them is bc they are going bigger!
come on guys. you both are cool and very noligable guys. lets not let a stupid topic get to each other. thanks for the opinions to both of you.
My car is a M6 and I want a cam only car might be spraying later.My power goal are 430-460ish. I have full boltons. might have to switch over to the Fast 92 set up and 410's. i have 373 right now.
09-16-2008, 06:37 PM
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have you tuned a trex yet?I'm thinking about swinging over there as soon as I get the install for a tune.thanks!
come on guys. you both are cool and very noligable guys. lets not let a stupid topic get to each other. thanks for the opinions to both of you.
My car is a M6 and I want a cam only car might be spraying later.My power goal are 430-460ish. I have full boltons. might have to switch over to the Fast 92 set up and 410's. i have 373 right now.
come on guys. you both are cool and very noligable guys. lets not let a stupid topic get to each other. thanks for the opinions to both of you.
My car is a M6 and I want a cam only car might be spraying later.My power goal are 430-460ish. I have full boltons. might have to switch over to the Fast 92 set up and 410's. i have 373 right now.
10-12-2008, 11:38 PM
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thought the ref thing was done away with.....
honestly it seems like only spiky haird kids in ek/eg hatchs and sti's get pulled over and fuct with...i had santa ana pd tell me my car sounded good...after letting me off with a verbal waring for rippin up broadway again....even got thumbs up....
honestly it seems like only spiky haird kids in ek/eg hatchs and sti's get pulled over and fuct with...i had santa ana pd tell me my car sounded good...after letting me off with a verbal waring for rippin up broadway again....even got thumbs up....
Eh not quite. Remember when I took the hit on the way to Crystal Cove that morning so long ago? He poped my hood and didn't even get to hear my car (it was off before we even came to a stop). It's just up to the cop and what kinda mood he's in.
Louis, the question you should ask is which cam will you be able to spin to it's peak poteltial then go from there.