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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 09:27 AM
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Someone flat out offered me $12,000 for my 2001 Trans Am convertible recently. How they arrived at that figure is a mystery but I feel it is close to reality. Of course I am not selling it but you do have to wonder what these cars are truly worth when one owner, maintained well, and garage kept. Not many of us remain. You can not say the car is in excellent condition because it has 70k miles on it. There are rock chips, minor seat wear, one small door panel crack, and just the usual over nearly 20 years. It is in good condition for sure. All fluids are regularly updated and everything works or I would not own it. That's the way i keep my cars. It doesn't need tires and no repairs are needed. If someone bought this car there is nothing to do but drive it unless you want to repair the door panel crack. If I went and looked to find a replacement one owner Trans Am 'vert in the same condition I wouldn't be paying $12k. I would have to pay much more I believe. Interesting to ponder as these cars age. The personal attachment I have definitely clouds the issue as well.
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Old Nov 25, 2020 | 03:13 PM
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The issue here is that yours is not a "textbook" 70k mile example; it's a much nicer car than the mileage would suggest. This is easy to identify in detailed pictures or especially in person, but on paper most folks would not expect such a nice car at that mileage. In all seriousness, there are at least three LS1 4th gens currently for sale in my area with under ~45k miles, and none of them present as nicely as what I've seen of your 70k mile car.

With that in mind, I agree that you couldn't replace your car for the same money that it would likely bring, because it would be extremely difficult to find one with comparable mileage in comparable condition (though I did once see a ~70k mile SOM WS6 that was also shockingly nice, but such is quite rare). You'd likely have to stick to cars with ~30k miles or less to find something similarly nice or nicer, and at that mileage (and in the proper condition for that mileage) they will certainly command a higher price than a 70k mile car.

The problem with F-bodies (especially non-special edition type examples), even the low-ish mileage ones, is that many were used as regular drivers at some point in their lives. So even if the last 10-15 years have been spent in a garage as a weekend toy, they may have seen some pretty harsh exposure in those first few years with the original owner who may have simply used it as a daily driver. When this happens in a climate like mine (Great Lakes area), there is no amount of detailing that will get every nut and bolt to look factory fresh again after a couple winters of salt exposure. Point being, mileage certainly doesn't tell the whole tale when it comes to a specific car, but on paper there is a certain preconceived notion about value and condition once mileage numbers are revealed. There are exceptions in both directions, but this isn't always apparent at first glance (unless first glance comes with highly detailed pictures or an in-person encounter).
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Old Nov 29, 2020 | 08:21 PM
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I agree that it’s getting hard to price out these cars. Since I run a shop that is known for 4th Gen F-Bodies I get asked all the time “what do you think my car is worth”. Of course I see cars that well to put bluntly, aren’t as nice as my 240,000 beater Protege. I also get the opportunity to see some really nice cars like your TA convertible. Most of these cars have been used as a daily drivers like you say and some definitely show that wear. I’m a 4th Gen guy. I love them, that’s why I have 4 of them. The prices sure seem to be climbing on nice examples because most just aren’t nice anymore. They’ve been beaten to death or turned into drag cars. I hope they continue to appreciate in value but I don’t know if I’d ever sell any of them except the 96 Z28/SS I bought. I wouldn’t even begin to put a price on my SOM Formula with the independent rear suspension.
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