1999 Formula Hardtop M6
09-13-2008, 09:31 PM
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1999 Formula Hardtop M6 I am testing the waters. I want a more dedicated track day/autox c-prepared type car, but I think my current car is too nice to cut up. So opinions on what it might be worth.
1999 Pontiac Firebird Formula 69,XXX
Pewter Ext./Ebony Int.(or is it graphite interior)
2 Owner car
Started life as a drag strip car, but is now an autox/trackday car. Completely at home on the track or as DD.
420hp to the wheels (Cartek Tuned)
On ET streets w/skinnies 11.79 @ 119 last fall at ATCO in NJ.
Engine Mods:
Free Ram air mod
LS6 Intake/Ported TB
MTI B1 cam
Stage 2 Cartek 241 heads
Comp Cams Pro Mag Rocker (stock ratio)
Comp Pushrods
Manley Springs/Ti retainers good to .625
ASP underdrive pulley
MSD wires
Paceseter LT/custome Y-pipe to SLP dual/dual
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Engine Mods from here down were done at 59,000 when a factory rocker arm spilled its guts and forced me to pull the motor to find 4 needle bearings.
Katech Rod Bolts
LS2 Chain
LS6 Oil pump (Thunder Racing)
ARP Head Studs
Aftermarket oil cooler
Afertmarket P/S cooler
Drivetrain/Suspension Mods:
Moser 12-bolt 31 split axles (3-channel ABS) 3.73's
New rotors HPS pads/new hard lines and braided lines
Girdle Cover
Upgraded T56, steel forks, carbon fiber synchros
Pro 5.0 with short stick
McCleod Blowproof Bell and block plate
SPEC 3+ Clutch/Aluminum Flywheel (10k on clutch and kicks butt)
Remote Bleeder for clutch
Aluminum DS
Weld in SFC
C5 Front Brakes/Track Brackets - New calipers/rotors/HP+ Pads
Braided front caliper lines
Strano springs and front/rear sway bars
Strano Offset upper control arm bushings (front)
Bolt in Roll Bar (at the time per class specs ESP)
Spohn TA (Tranny Mount)
Spohn PHB (Poly/Rod)
LG LCA (Poly/Rod)
Koni S/A rear D/A fronts
ARP wheel studs at all corners
Exterior/Interior Appearance Mods
WS6 Hood/Rear Badge
WS6 Wheels with 275/40/17 Goodyear F1s D3s 65% (not used for racing at all, no curb rash, good chrome no pitting)
Door mouldings/"Formula" emblems removed
Raptor Shift Light
Autometer Ultra Light Full Sweep Electric 2-5/8th water and oil temp guages
SLP Fan Override switch
Hurst Roll Control
Kirkey Intermediate Road Race Seats on custom sliders w/adj. seat back supports
5pt cam-lock belts (out of date)
Rear seat removed (but available and in good condition, goes with car)
Painless Wiring aux. fuse block for gauges/fan switch/roll control/shift light
Misc. and Extras that would go with:
Optima Red Top (1 year old)
BMR DS Loop (bought used, not installed yet)
BMR STB (bought used, not installed yet)
(4) 17x11 (50mm offset) ZR1 replicas with Kuhmo V710's (pretty used up)
4 billet wheel spaces (0.400 thick) to fit the 17x11's
4 OZ 17x9.5 (stock offset) 275/40/17 with Toyo RA1's (40%)
Flaws:
*A/C doesn't work (need compressor)
*2 out of the 3 center A/C vents have 2-5/8ths guages mounted in them.
*Rear most speakers/back seat speakers removed. Only front door speakers remain and work fine as does head monsoon head unit.
Exterior is in good condition 7 out of 10, no accidents. Some scuffs down low on the nose from hitting cones.
Interior is in good condition 7 out of 10. Some interior scuffs in the rear hatch area from carrying tires/gear too and from autox events.
Here's a link with some pics and the story behind it all since I bought it. Not entirely up to date, but pretty good idea.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2446297
What's it worth? Or do I just take it off the road and go for it?
Chris
1999 Pontiac Firebird Formula 69,XXX
Pewter Ext./Ebony Int.(or is it graphite interior)
2 Owner car
Started life as a drag strip car, but is now an autox/trackday car. Completely at home on the track or as DD.
420hp to the wheels (Cartek Tuned)
On ET streets w/skinnies 11.79 @ 119 last fall at ATCO in NJ.
Engine Mods:
Free Ram air mod
LS6 Intake/Ported TB
MTI B1 cam
Stage 2 Cartek 241 heads
Comp Cams Pro Mag Rocker (stock ratio)
Comp Pushrods
Manley Springs/Ti retainers good to .625
ASP underdrive pulley
MSD wires
Paceseter LT/custome Y-pipe to SLP dual/dual
------------------------------------------
Engine Mods from here down were done at 59,000 when a factory rocker arm spilled its guts and forced me to pull the motor to find 4 needle bearings.
Katech Rod Bolts
LS2 Chain
LS6 Oil pump (Thunder Racing)
ARP Head Studs
Aftermarket oil cooler
Afertmarket P/S cooler
Drivetrain/Suspension Mods:
Moser 12-bolt 31 split axles (3-channel ABS) 3.73's
New rotors HPS pads/new hard lines and braided lines
Girdle Cover
Upgraded T56, steel forks, carbon fiber synchros
Pro 5.0 with short stick
McCleod Blowproof Bell and block plate
SPEC 3+ Clutch/Aluminum Flywheel (10k on clutch and kicks butt)
Remote Bleeder for clutch
Aluminum DS
Weld in SFC
C5 Front Brakes/Track Brackets - New calipers/rotors/HP+ Pads
Braided front caliper lines
Strano springs and front/rear sway bars
Strano Offset upper control arm bushings (front)
Bolt in Roll Bar (at the time per class specs ESP)
Spohn TA (Tranny Mount)
Spohn PHB (Poly/Rod)
LG LCA (Poly/Rod)
Koni S/A rear D/A fronts
ARP wheel studs at all corners
Exterior/Interior Appearance Mods
WS6 Hood/Rear Badge
WS6 Wheels with 275/40/17 Goodyear F1s D3s 65% (not used for racing at all, no curb rash, good chrome no pitting)
Door mouldings/"Formula" emblems removed
Raptor Shift Light
Autometer Ultra Light Full Sweep Electric 2-5/8th water and oil temp guages
SLP Fan Override switch
Hurst Roll Control
Kirkey Intermediate Road Race Seats on custom sliders w/adj. seat back supports
5pt cam-lock belts (out of date)
Rear seat removed (but available and in good condition, goes with car)
Painless Wiring aux. fuse block for gauges/fan switch/roll control/shift light
Misc. and Extras that would go with:
Optima Red Top (1 year old)
BMR DS Loop (bought used, not installed yet)
BMR STB (bought used, not installed yet)
(4) 17x11 (50mm offset) ZR1 replicas with Kuhmo V710's (pretty used up)
4 billet wheel spaces (0.400 thick) to fit the 17x11's
4 OZ 17x9.5 (stock offset) 275/40/17 with Toyo RA1's (40%)
Flaws:
*A/C doesn't work (need compressor)
*2 out of the 3 center A/C vents have 2-5/8ths guages mounted in them.
*Rear most speakers/back seat speakers removed. Only front door speakers remain and work fine as does head monsoon head unit.
Exterior is in good condition 7 out of 10, no accidents. Some scuffs down low on the nose from hitting cones.
Interior is in good condition 7 out of 10. Some interior scuffs in the rear hatch area from carrying tires/gear too and from autox events.
Here's a link with some pics and the story behind it all since I bought it. Not entirely up to date, but pretty good idea.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2446297
What's it worth? Or do I just take it off the road and go for it?
Chris
09-15-2008, 03:02 PM
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Dude,
You are modded to the point that I think you would be money WAY ahead to just stick with what you have and turn it into your track toy. Plus it sounds like you probably already know that car inside and out.
But that's just my 2 cents.
You are modded to the point that I think you would be money WAY ahead to just stick with what you have and turn it into your track toy. Plus it sounds like you probably already know that car inside and out.
But that's just my 2 cents.
09-15-2008, 05:16 PM
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Probably right, but I can't bring myself to gut it. The car still looks very good and is an easy drive. We'll what winter brings. Gut it/cage it and put it on a diet, might be shortest way to the overall goal?
