Thinking of going wider
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Thinking of going wider So it's that time for tires and I'm thinking about going wider. I like the idea of getting the free shipping on the wheels and tires that are already mounted and balanced. Right now I'm looking at 275s on 17" all the way around. Since I'm used to 245s on 16x8s that's all I know. If I were to stagger it, I might want to go 315s on 17x11s.
My questions are regarding drivability. How much additional tram-lining can I expect? How about driving that wide in the rain. Since this is my DD, will I get sick of it compared to what I have now?
Thanks in advance.
My questions are regarding drivability. How much additional tram-lining can I expect? How about driving that wide in the rain. Since this is my DD, will I get sick of it compared to what I have now?
Thanks in advance.
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So it's that time for tires and I'm thinking about going wider. I like the idea of getting the free shipping on the wheels and tires that are already mounted and balanced. Right now I'm looking at 275s on 17" all the way around. Since I'm used to 245s on 16x8s that's all I know. If I were to stagger it, I might want to go 315s on 17x11s.
My questions are regarding drivability. How much additional tram-lining can I expect? How about driving that wide in the rain. Since this is my DD, will I get sick of it compared to what I have now?
Thanks in advance.
My questions are regarding drivability. How much additional tram-lining can I expect? How about driving that wide in the rain. Since this is my DD, will I get sick of it compared to what I have now?
Thanks in advance.
edit: just saw your sig pic, 330K miles holy **** man
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The WS6, Firehawk and SS cars got 17x9s with 275/40/17s from the factory, so the car is built to handle these sizes easily. Trammeling might be more noticeable but I suggest getting a good alignment(not a "stock" alignment), and playing with tire pressure to get the least amount of trammeling - some tires like more air and some like less, I would start at 30psi and go up or down from there and see what you like. Im running 315s on the back with 17x11s and the back doesn't trammel and never has. Fronts are 17x9s with 275s like stock and trammeling is minimal but its there on some really bad roads.
edit: just saw your sig pic, 330K miles holy **** man
edit: just saw your sig pic, 330K miles holy **** man
I know what you mean about the tire pressure. I run 32psi on mine now and never more.
Oh .. and that's an old pic. I need to update it. I'm at 350k now and going strong!
I've been running 315's all around for a few years now, it can tramline on some bad rutted roads but most of the time it's fine. A good alignment is really important.
An added benefit of running a square setup is that you can make your tires last a lot longer by rotating them. I put nearly 20,000 miles on my R888's and they still had a good amount of tread on them when I sold them.
An added benefit of running a square setup is that you can make your tires last a lot longer by rotating them. I put nearly 20,000 miles on my R888's and they still had a good amount of tread on them when I sold them.
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I've been running 315's all around for a few years now, it can tramline on some bad rutted roads but most of the time it's fine. A good alignment is really important.
An added benefit of running a square setup is that you can make your tires last a lot longer by rotating them. I put nearly 20,000 miles on my R888's and they still had a good amount of tread on them when I sold them.
An added benefit of running a square setup is that you can make your tires last a lot longer by rotating them. I put nearly 20,000 miles on my R888's and they still had a good amount of tread on them when I sold them.
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The WS6, Firehawk and SS cars got 17x9s with 275/40/17s from the factory, so the car is built to handle these sizes easily. Trammeling might be more noticeable but I suggest getting a good alignment(not a "stock" alignment), and playing with tire pressure to get the least amount of trammeling - some tires like more air and some like less, I would start at 30psi and go up or down from there and see what you like. Im running 315s on the back with 17x11s and the back doesn't trammel and never has. Fronts are 17x9s with 275s like stock and trammeling is minimal but its there on some really bad roads.
edit: just saw your sig pic, 330K miles holy **** man
edit: just saw your sig pic, 330K miles holy **** man
Rear Size: 315-35-17 with a 50mm offset. Think that will require the rolled the fender and the BFH?
Yes you need to roll the rear fender for 315s. Be sure when you put the wheel/tires on to check the clearance on the backside, it could be close to the inner fender area, notably toward the front edge above the rear LCA.
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I'm actually torn between the staggered deal with the ZR1 style wheel vs. the C6 style - which are 275s all the way around on 17x9.5s. The ZR1's have a polished lip which I don't personally like; the C6s are totally black. If I did go with those maybe I could pop them out an inch with a spacer. Also I'm not familiar with Toyo tires which come with the set. I love the idea of having it shipped right to my front door - mounted and balanced.
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Good deal. I'm looking at OE's ZR1 style wheel. The 17x11s have an offset of 50mm. It's lowered an inch and a quarter, so I'm guessing that I'll have to roll in my fenders too.
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Does anyone regret doing a staggered setup with 275s and 315s? I love the way that the car rides which is why I have such high mileage as my DD. Riding with 245s on 16s gives me a taller tire to absorb the road.
What are the pros? Looks ... better handling?
Cons .... rougher ride? Can't rotate tires?
Just looking for more feedback. Thanks!
What are the pros? Looks ... better handling?
Cons .... rougher ride? Can't rotate tires?
Just looking for more feedback. Thanks!
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The absence of "do it man ... you will love it" type responses makes me lean towards sticking with my stock 16x8s and just buy some tires. I know you guys with 315s look great, but I'm hesitant to do it because I don't want to hate my car and how it might drive.
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It's a Trade-off,
The Wider you go, in front, the more this end will wiggle.
When I ran 285's all around, there was minimal Tramlining. However only on bad Roads, and, I was on Rails so much more! Theoretically, makes little difference.
The Wider you go, in front, the more this end will wiggle.
When I ran 285's all around, there was minimal Tramlining. However only on bad Roads, and, I was on Rails so much more! Theoretically, makes little difference.
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So then going to 275s is only a little over an inch wider than what I have now. The roads aren't so bad on my drive to and from work.
i run 295's on all 4 corners of my car and it doesn't tramline all that bad, most of the time i can anticipate when its going to happen based on the road condition. as M4N14C said, you can tune most of that out with a good (not factory) alignment. i currently have a factory alignment on my car but will be doing a more "performance oriented" alignment when i get it back on the road. also as JD said 275/40's came from the factory on ws6 and SS models so no work needed to fit em. go 275's, you won't regret it