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Old 08-09-2006, 11:08 PM
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what size american racing torque thrust 2 wheels should i buy?
will 17x11 be to wide for my trans am?
i dont want my wheels sticking out of my fender wells. pictures would help too
thanks
Old 08-09-2006, 11:34 PM
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i read somewhere a guy lost 13hp (IIRC, but dont take my word) from switching from stock to tt2's... dyno proven loss.
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Originally Posted by 99DWPTA
what size american racing torque thrust 2 wheels should i buy?
will 17x11 be to wide for my trans am?
i dont want my wheels sticking out of my fender wells. pictures would help too
thanks
if you're getting tt2's, the only way to go is 9.5 fronts and 11 rears... from a front angle, the wheels will be flush with the fender, but from the back they will appear to stick out from the fender, because of how the trans am rear bumper curves inwards from a rear view... giving the illusion that the wheels are sticking out.

but dont worry, you'll get used to that
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Originally Posted by NBMgreg
if you're getting tt2's, the only way to go is 9.5 fronts and 11 rears...
I agree and disagree.
I think the 11's look just amazing, making the Fbody look really beefy and stout.
No doubt 11's look great.

I have also seen plenty of guys on here with 9.5's running 285/40's and they look damn wide.
I have ZR1's in route, all 17X9.5 and thats the route im going with.
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
I agree and disagree.
I think the 11's look just amazing, making the Fbody look really beefy and stout.
No doubt 11's look great.

I have also seen plenty of guys on here with 9.5's running 285/40's and they look damn wide.
I have ZR1's in route, all 17X9.5 and thats the route im going with.
good choice, now you can actually rotate the tires if you put the same on all four corners too. :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by nick_s
good choice, now you can actually rotate the tires if you put the same on all four corners too. :thumbsup:
Yeah, that's the logical more economical choice

But who said carguys are logical and don't spend money??
Just go with a 17x11 rear with a drag radial and be truly happy, you'll regret it if you don't
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I ran aftermarket chrome 17x9.5 z06 wheels, and they weighted 54lb! with 26in mt et streets. My prostars with 28inch hoosiers weigh around 2#lbs each, and of course the skinnies are nothing.
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17x11 Fikses are only 20lbs. 17x9.5 are 18lbs.

That's the only way to do 17x11s...
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
17x11 Fikses are only 20lbs. 17x9.5 are 18lbs.

That's the only way to do 17x11s...
If you want to spend 4x the amount of money as a set of TT2's...
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Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
If you want to spend 4x the amount of money as a set of TT2's...

Yes but if people complain that 11" wheels slow them down, and then need to do power modifications to make up for said lost power . . . Do the math. . . .

People are never happy . . .

11" wheels are too heavy . . . .

Fikses are too expensive . . . .

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Originally Posted by Xsta Z 28
Yes but if people complain that 11" wheels slow them down, and then need to do power modifications to make up for said lost power . . . Do the math. . . .

People are never happy . . .

11" wheels are too heavy . . . .

Fikses are too expensive . . . .

Fiske wheels are very very nice high-end wheels and are worth every penny.

...We have RR setups that are lighter, less expensive and show-quality.

I show this picture often...it's a clear professional picture from GM High-tech performance magizine.
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you guys are forgetting that the 315 tire is considerably heavier than a 275 tire. my 17x11s slowed my car down about two tenths (from 13.3 to 13.5) and i can really tell the diffrence on the street. i have to say that it makes the car corner nicer though. but man does it sure follow ruts like no other.

my suggestion is this, unless you can spend money on something like TT2s or Fiskes etc 17x11s arent worth it, you also gotta spend some money on a nice tire (ie BFGoodrichs) my Toyo tire looks like crap, i hate it
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Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
If you want to spend 4x the amount of money as a set of TT2's...
...and look 10x better..
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Originally Posted by SJM Manufacturing Inc
Good point LS69TA, the wheels do not have a DOT approval...this doesn't mean they are not strong nor safe. This certification is something that costs quite a bit. Since the wheels are built for applications that do not need DOT approval, adding additional costs to the wheels which in-turn is passed onto the customer is an unnecessary step.

They are designed to take extremely high lateral loads and forces seen in road racing applications (which typically see more harsh conditions then street applications). Actually, I don't believe I've ever seen one fail from RR use or Street use from EVERY car they have been built for. Strength concerns...I'd put them up against just about any other street aluminum wheel you see on the market today.
Those road racing wheels sound awesome--strong, lightweight, and not as expensive as Fikses, CCW, etc. However, they're mad ugly. Can't Bogart come up with a wheel style that looks decent enough to use on the street? Thanks in advance for the info.
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Originally Posted by damon_Z
Those road racing wheels sound awesome--strong, lightweight, and not as expensive as Fikses, CCW, etc. However, they're mad ugly. Can't Bogart come up with a wheel style that looks decent enough to use on the street? Thanks in advance for the info.
You know what? I'll take that back. I just saw the above pic of NBM SS with the RR 10's. Not bad, but I think the RR RT will look even better. Do you have any pics of camaro's with the RR RT rims? What backspacing should I get them in for 17x9.5/17x11 sizes? And how much would the set cost in those sizes? Could these wheels be ordered in anthracite? If not, then could they be painted anthracite? Thanks in advance for the info.
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Originally Posted by damon_Z
You know what? I'll take that back. I just saw the above pic of NBM SS with the RR 10's. Not bad, but I think the RR RT will look even better. Do you have any pics of camaro's with the RR RT rims? What backspacing should I get them in for 17x9.5/17x11 sizes? And how much would the set cost in those sizes? Could these wheels be ordered in anthracite? If not, then could they be painted anthracite? Thanks in advance for the info.
Follow the bogart wheel gallery link in his sig - 3rd page, 1st column, 3rd row.
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I have 17x11s purely for looks waiting to go on, 255/50/16 MT DRs on stock z28 wheels for the strip/if traction is needed on the street, and plan on getting Bogarts with et streets/skinnies once I got enough money.
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Originally Posted by 2002BlackSS
Follow the bogart wheel gallery link in his sig - 3rd page, 1st column, 3rd row.
Thanks! These are the ****!



These RR RT's are definitely the most non-racing-looking Bogart rims ever...and that's a good thing.
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Originally Posted by NBMgreg
i read somewhere a guy lost 13hp (IIRC, but dont take my word) from switching from stock to tt2's... dyno proven loss.
What a crock this is. I had stockers before my chrome TTM's and Sumitomo's (17x10.5, 315 out back, ) and there is no difference in driving behavior of the car, its all in your head. I can spin the tires the same, corner the same, brake the same, etc. Give it a rest guys, you act like you are driving your cars fast and to the left for 4 hours at a time. Make up for the "lost power" with a H/C/I or FI if it is going to bother you that much.


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Here's a different perspective. I'm running 315's in the back on the street. I live in Seattle and need a tire that works in the rain. I also have more power than any true street tire will hold. So a 315 gives me the best traction with those limitations. When I go to the track (or want the extra traction) I just switch to a 16x8 with ET Streets.

Yes, there is a performance difference. But there's also an appearance difference. The appearance works all the time. How often does the performance difference come in to play on the street?


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