I'm thinking you pretty much need to abandon your thoughts of Fikse releasing rims with covered lug nuts. Regardless of ugly or not, it seems fairly clear they won't offer that.

He explained pretty well why they won't do it. The thread is working just fine. People are giving input on what they would like to see from Fikse. Just because certain ideas won't work or are not desirable by the company doesn't mean the whole thread fails... he's being honest and informative.

 

i honestly dont care that much i think it could look nice and since the thread is entitled "thoughts/ideas" i had a thought.thats all.

 

Don't be discouraged... Phantomzer0 makes a good point. I'm not trying to discredit your ideas, I'm just being honest about what we will and won't do. I don't want anybody getting upset because their ideas don't work with what this company builds.

You just need to understand that these are race wheels that have a fairly standard form. A possible new spoke design for the center piece is what i'm looking for opinions on, and thinning out spokes of an existing center isn't an option, as it weakens the integrity of the wheel.

I hope this all makes sense, and that you all keep posting your ideas!

Thanks,

Danny G.

 

 

Just re-design the FM10 with a big 2.5-3in non stepped lip. That would look sweet. Of course you'd have to let me trade in mine for the new ones. LOL.

 

The step in the lip isn't going to come out... It's there for rigidity. Once again, the wheels we put on street cars are exactly the same as the wheels we put on Daytona cars, etc. and are built primarily for racing.

And once again, I can give any of you as big of an outer rim as you'd like... However, if you have a 4th gen camaro, without a narrowed rearend, a 3.0-3.5" lip is going to make your car look a 64 Impala on 13" Daytons, that should have curb feelers on it...

 

Danny, why must you shoot down our dreams like that!

Ya know, its great having guys like you and SJM Manufacturing on the board to explain why you design rims the way you do.

What about doing this - making a MachV/Z06 style of wheel based off the Profil 13? You've got 13 spokes within that wheel already - how about making it 10 spokes, or 8 spokes more spaced out? (Like put each "split spoke" on-center of each lug) I dont think you'd lose that much rigidity to make them non-functional for racing....

 

Danny,

I know we spoke about this already. But how hard is really to clean up or mill out the overage in the rim sections that is seen in between the spokes?

That to me would really make your wheels perfect. I just could not stand how it looks over time and it's impossible to keep that little piece polished.

And IMO it would not weaken the sections what so ever.

 

Good thought! I was already thinking about a Z06 style rim, as I own a C5 Z, but every twist on it is great feedback.

 

We-are-not-going-to-change-any-of-our-current-wheels.......................

Your opinion, and fact are 2 completely different things. Fact is, that piece you're referring to, is the part of the rim half that the center bolts up to... So yeah, you could say it might sacrifice rigidity.

 

Your wheels are all beautiful, but how about some that have a more purpose built look - though I know yours are designed for road race/autoX applications mostly, what about something along the lines (not a copy) of a Draglite (Weld), where instead of the look of having spokes, you have the look of a full center with weight reduction?

Just an idea to give you something different than the rest of your lineup.

 

I agree with alot of the other guys, I would love to see something that's similar to the ten spoke wheels with a 2.5" lip. Lip=Sex

 

See post #46 please...

 

Interesting... Might be hard to make a light wheel with that type of design, but i'll look into it a little further.

 

1st off, let me say I think its great you are coming in asking for comments.

I LOVE good looking 5 spoke designs and am actually in the market for wheels now.

Is there any way you would produce a more street wheel(as you stated you make mainly race wheels) at a lower cost. Of course a nice lip and good looking design will help it!


Thanks

 

Whatever it is, I think it would be cool to have the name "Fiske" go down one of the spokes. I think rousch did this??? It looks pretty sweet too. Also try to make it <20lbs.

 

I don't think they'd be interested in making a lower grade wheel. They've already got the Classics, which are a fair bit cheaper than the Profil (or vise-versa), and are able to do so without compromising on quality. I think they pride themselves on the idea that every wheel they make is 100% ready for competition - indeed, this is largely what makes them so desireable to us, and I don't think they are going to want to compromise this just to make a more mass market wheel (though maybe then I could one day have hopes of being able to afford them).

Just an idea.

I don't think weight will be too hard - you would have more material (and more strength) in the center design, so you could cut down on the thickness. The Welds are pretty light (a 15x10 is about 14 lbs.), though of course, for your application, there would be additional material in diameter and thickness to strengthen them for lateral forces. One of the keys to this would probably be a fillet from the body of the center to the rim.

I think you could come up with some pretty killer ideas that could easily be within the 17-18 lbs. you like.

 

Man this is how Companies should work. I love it...

I say scratch all conventional ideas and start with something fresh. No rehashing something already done. Which is probably the reason why your here.

If this is gonna be a auto-x racing wheel then of course it should be light and strong.

What would it take to have them made out of magnesium instead of forged aluminum. Also how about a two or three piece design.

Its all about functionality along with profatability. If you can make wheels that are lighter, look better, and function better for the same price then you will have a winner.

Simple logic shows you that the thinner the spoke you have the more of them you have to have plus they are a pain in the butt to keep clean. Especially after a race and having burned off almost an entire brake pad in dust.

There should be no "coating" per se. Just polished Magnesium.

 

I think to start there should be two versions. Maybe an FM5 style in 17,18, and 19" sizes. You could do multiple bolt patterns since they are three piece design. The only problem would be the offset issue. Not sure how that works as far as production goes.

Maybe a 5 spoke(yea sorry i am a fan of the 5 spoke so sue me) and flare it a little different and maybe enscribe a design into the spoke or take it and cut a oblong hole or something in the spoke it self. That way it looks more like a 10 spoke but you still have the 10 spoke look. It makes the wheel have a bit more action to it.

Or...how about wheels that actually aid in moving air across the brakes? Its an idea i have no idea how to actually make it work without making the wheel looking funky.

I tell ya though, I will have TTII's on my car for now. But I will be looking in the future for some actual track wheels and I love Fiske wheels. Have been in love with them since I seen them in a magazine ad for michilin or something..it was a 1st gen camaro or something. I got on the web and searched forever until i found out what wheels they were. For me you want something that doesn't take away from the car. You want it to blend in but when you start looking at the details you step back and say whoa wowsers that is awesome.

I mentioned the idea of the FM5's in magnesium to a guy on LS2 that was a former FM5 owner and he was like

You guys have some wheels that are pretty much border line perfection for F-bodies.

You can't improve your design perfection in my book, but there are other aspects of the wheels that you might be able to improve though that would push people over the edge and say, "damn man I gotta have those no matter what they cost."

I hope my babble is somewhat constructive.

 

Thumper (if I understand your idea right) thats kinda what I was suggesting earlier w/ a C6 Z06 style (or hell, an FM5 style) similar to how the IROC wheels are (but not so much of a positive offset.)

Like place the top of the spoke at the beginning of the step down and then make it go to a location that would be sufficient for clearance on our cars. You wouldnt have the lip like you would normally, but I think with the spokes being setup like that, I'd give a great look while driving. But I dunno how that would effect the structure of the rim for the racing application...

Ive been huffing polish and wax for the last hour so blame my ramblings on that lol.