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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Ok I was really leaning toward the ruff 278 in chrome, but reading some post about how they are the wrong bolt pattern I am now hesitant to buy them. I do not want to deal with any kind of vibration or risk of loosing a wheel, because I run at high speed on a regular basis.

Can anyone send me in the direction of a wheel that is similiar to the chrome ruff 278 they will fit correctly? Thanks, Brett
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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I believe those are a little more than the price range that Im looking in.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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Can anyone here that has ruff wheels speak of the fitment? Do you have any vibrations ro had a problems with there being this difference in the bolt pattern?
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 09:48 PM
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I have 278's. Bolted right up with no problems at all. If they balance out fine you shouldn't have any vibrations.
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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So why do some people state that using this wheel will cause problems? The ruff is a 5x4.72 and camaro is a 5x4.75. Im really leaning toward this wheel. I just need more people chiming in here with there experience with ruff fitment. Thanks, Brett
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 03:37 AM
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So why do some people state that using this wheel will cause problems? The ruff is a 5x4.72 and camaro is a 5x4.75. Im really leaning toward this wheel. I just need more people chiming in here with there experience with ruff fitment. Thanks, Brett
I knew this guy who had a cousin that had a brother in-law who had these same wheels. He rocked them and nothing happened. Said they rode smooth as silk
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 07:21 AM
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Don't forget your hub rings if you go with these. Thats the only thing about them that turned me off but I also refuse to run a rim that requires any spacer also.
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It's a 5-120mm bolt pattern compared to 5-4.75"

4.75" = 120.65mm.

It's a .65mm difference. In other words, lots of people use them and I've yet to see a problem. In fact alot of the aftermarket wheels (non replicas) are 5-120 because it's a more common (Euro) bolt pattern.
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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0.65mm isn't a big deal. Especially when divided in half, since you are spreading that tolerance over the outer diameter of a circle. That means if you are centered up, the lugs are approx 0.325mm off. The tolerance on lug studs themselves isn't even that precise. Pull out a ruler and see how small 1/3 of a mm is.

In other words, 1000s of people are running 5x120 wheels on a 5x4.75 lug, and I haven't seen any issues yet. You are more likely to have problems if you don't use a torque wrench each and every time you install a wheel.
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So will I need to run any kind of spacer for these? if so what kind?
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NO spacer, they should bolt right up is what everyone is saying..they are saying that the .65mm difference is negligable
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I have them on my 00 TA for 6 months already with no problems at all!

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A majority of the wheels you see that are not custom made have the 5x120 bolt pattern. They bolt on without issues.
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They will bolt up fine. Just remember the hub rings as someone stated.
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I getting conflicting replies about the hub ring. somw people say I need it and others say I dont. Who is ruuning a hub ring and who isnt? Will this space my wheels out? Where can I purchase a hub ring? Thanks
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I getting conflicting replies about the hub ring. somw people say I need it and others say I dont. Who is ruuning a hub ring and who isnt? Will this space my wheels out? Where can I purchase a hub ring? Thanks

It's called a "hubcentric" ring, and it's purpose is to fill the gap between your car's hub OD, the the wheel's centerbore ID. It adds support to the assembly, so the studs aren't the only thing absorbing the load. They do not space out the wheel. There usually is a "relief" or taper on the backside of a wheel's centerbore, and the hubcentric ring's flange fits in there.

OE wheels are "hubcentric" so the rings aren't needed. Aftermarket wheels are frequently "universal fit", and have a large centerbore to accomodate many different car's hubs.

Most shops that sell aftermarket wheels also sell the rings, but if not, you can do a Google search, and a few sources will be found.
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does anyone know what measurments I will need a hubcentric ring to be for a ruff 278?
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I really need to know this also.

FRONT SIZE: 19 x 8.5
REAR SIZE: 19 x 9.5
PCD: 5 x 120
FRONT OFFSET: +35
REAR OFFSET: +45

what type of rings do i get?
what sponser can i talk to her thet knows what i'll need?
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I'm running 5-120mm RPM 505s. I have 72.62mm-70.30mm hub rings but I'm no longer running them, no vibration so far. I just make sure I torque the wheels in intervals when installing and recheck ever so often.

Here's the hubcentric rings. Not sure what size you would need for the Ruff's but the hubs are 70.30mm.

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