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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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well i got a 97 formula and the person before me had skinnys on it so he had the elongated studs so my special lug nut key piece cant get around the stud b/c its to long how am i suposed to do this?? to take my tire off
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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This doesn't sound right, as obviously, somebody was able to get the thing on... Are you saying that your wheel lock has been installed on a car with the NHRA style, really long wheel studs? Most locks I've ever seen are of the "closed end" style, so the stud wouldn't come through.....
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Old Sep 15, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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well mine does i have extended studs on the front the nuts one front are kind of weird they have the normal nut octegon or w/e shape in front and then it turns in to a screw like look that twirls .. but still in conclusion im stuck with a flat that cannot come off to be fixed b/c the key for the lug nut is not long enough to get around the stud
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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OK, it sounds like you have a "factory" locking lug nut. You might want to try a GM dealership, maybe they have some sort of "universal" key.

Or, if you were REALLY careful, maybe you could catch one of the splines on the lug nut with a brass drift and loosen it.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Sacrific a deep well socket, tap it onto the locking lug, and wrench that bad boy off.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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GM style locking lugs with key:



GM standard lug nuts:



The "threading" on the outside is only for the decorative plastic caps that screw on.

SO:

If you have the lugs I picture first, the special key is needed or sacrific a deep lug socket.

If you have the lugs I show second, a normal deepwell socket is all you need.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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If you have the lock lug socket you can drill a hole in the closed end of the lock lug socket so the stud can stick through it.
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Old Sep 16, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Bluz28
If you have the lock lug socket you can drill a hole in the closed end of the lock lug socket so the stud can stick through it.
I was thinking the same thing, but there's a chance that you'd wind up either drilling the hex off, or greatly weakening it.
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Start small on the drill bits then work your way up in size until the wheel stud can fit through the hole.
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This became another one of those threads that really amaze me. Someone asks a question, several people join the discussion, and the OP disappears....
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
This became another one of those threads that really amaze me. Someone asks a question, several people join the discussion, and the OP disappears....
AND he asked the question TWICE . . . https://ls1tech.com/forums/wheels-tires/986949-help-please.html
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Another reason locking lugnuts are a pointless purchase. If someone wants to steal your wheels, well, they're going to. Anyone can figure out how to remove a locking lugnut from a stud. Even the dumbest of criminals.
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Originally Posted by Black_Z28
Another reason locking lugnuts are a pointless purchase. If someone wants to steal your wheels, well, they're going to. Anyone can figure out how to remove a locking lugnut from a stud. Even the dumbest of criminals.
This is true if you leave your car unattended for long periods of time. I buy locking lugs more as a deterrent than a security measure. If they look at my lugnuts and realize every one of them is a lock, they know they'll have to spend a lot of time and effort trying to get them off. With any luck, this will make them decide they should move on to someone else's car. Thieves, by nature, are lazy. Otherwise, they'd get jobs like the rest of us.


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Any security measure is a "deterent" . . . you'd be a fool to think otherwise.
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To quote Vendetta, "I disagree."




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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
This is true if you leave your car unattended for long periods of time. I buy locking lugs more as a deterrent than a security measure. If they look at my lugnuts and realize every one of them is a lock, they know they'll have to spend a lot of time and effort trying to get them off. With any luck, this will make them decide they should move on to someone else's car. Thieves, by nature, are lazy. Otherwise, they'd get jobs like the rest of us.


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The thing is, what happens when you forget you key at home, and you need to change a wheel? Or you lose the key....just too many issues that could be had because of the locks.

Like I said, if someone really wants to steal my wheels, they're going to. I'm not going to stop them, I have insurance for a reason, and this is one of the reasons.

Plus, what's a locking nut set, $40 a set? You said you have a locking nut on each stud? At least that what I think you're saying. So, $40x4=$120....um no. My deductible is only $200. So, I'll take my chances.
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If you forget the key at home, yes, you're screwed. That's why you keep it in your glove compartment. Gorilla Lugs (what I use) also give you a card with the "code" so they can make you a second one. I keep that card at home, in case something happens to the key.

I don't disagree with you that a determined thief WILL steal your wheels (or mine, or anyone else's). I just prefer to have a small peace of mind knowing that I took SOME step to keep my wheels on the car.

I bought my lugnuts from Thunder Racing. The set I have from Gorilla is $33 for the complete set - 20 lugnuts and the key. A set of standard Gorilla lugnuts is $4.69 per pack of four, so if I buy 20 standard lugnuts, that's $23.45. If I do what most people do (one lock per wheel), that's $4.69 per four pack, plus $15 for the four pack of locks, which is $33. So, for the same price, I have a *little* extra security. Not much, I know, but like I said, I feel like I've at least done *something*, rather than just say, "Go ahead, steal my wheels. I enjoy filing lots of paperwork, waiting another 4-6 weeks for a new set of wheels (if I decide to get the same wheels again), then getting the tires mounted, balanced, and then install them. All the while my car is out of action."

Thanks, but no thanks.


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cut the adaptor and weld a socket to it. thats what i did.
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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
If you forget the key at home, yes, you're screwed. That's why you keep it in your glove compartment. Gorilla Lugs (what I use) also give you a card with the "code" so they can make you a second one. I keep that card at home, in case something happens to the key.

I don't disagree with you that a determined thief WILL steal your wheels (or mine, or anyone else's). I just prefer to have a small peace of mind knowing that I took SOME step to keep my wheels on the car.

I bought my lugnuts from Thunder Racing. The set I have from Gorilla is $33 for the complete set - 20 lugnuts and the key. A set of standard Gorilla lugnuts is $4.69 per pack of four, so if I buy 20 standard lugnuts, that's $23.45. If I do what most people do (one lock per wheel), that's $4.69 per four pack, plus $15 for the four pack of locks, which is $33. So, for the same price, I have a *little* extra security. Not much, I know, but like I said, I feel like I've at least done *something*, rather than just say, "Go ahead, steal my wheels. I enjoy filing lots of paperwork, waiting another 4-6 weeks for a new set of wheels (if I decide to get the same wheels again), then getting the tires mounted, balanced, and then install them. All the while my car is out of action."

Thanks, but no thanks.


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Cool, but you like most people probably have the key in their glove box, or somewhere else in the car. I'm sure, a lot of potential thieves probably know that as well, and all it takes is a swift blow to the window and they're inside the car.

I had locks on my camaro, and did the same thing. I had the key in the car. Then one day I took it out for some reason and forgot it. So, when I wanted to remove my wheels, I just ended up wrecking the lugnut. From that point on, I said, the hell with wheel locks. They're pointless IMO.
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