Yeah I thought of that too, On the other hand, you could leave the 2 screws out (under the coin change holder) and all you had to do is open the center glovebox lid and pull the center console out and remove the blackbox but it depends to the extent of the injury you get in an accident.

But if your death occurs in the accident, let the black box hold the answer related to the cause of the accident causing your death to bring justice to others and let loved ones know the cause.
This is like you can't have the car anymore since your gone resting in peace so what good will it do to you when your gone?

 

If the investigators were suspicious to the guy's claims, they have other resources to gather answers from skid mark length, location of car at rest, surrounding areas...etc Then the black box did serve it's purpose by confirming their suspicious.

However this is a vehicle to pedestrian/bystander incident, not an vehicle to vehicle collosion suitation.
On the other hand in a vehicle to vehicle collosion suitation which involves one of the vehicle which is older and did not come with an black box, you don't want the other party to use the black box information in their hands which can be used in a civil lawsuit against you.
The best prevention to keep this from happening is to prevent the black box from falling into wrong hands.

I do know there's an black box reader which i saw and the name of it or the company name starts with a "V" and it costs $2,000
Insurance companies also uses this equipment for their own use too

Removing the black box will cause the airbag light to be set off on the dashboard.

There was a writeup online a long time ago (in 1998 or 1999) on how to disable the black box to keep the vehicle functioning normal like it thinks it has the black box but it doesn't have it really. It was about two pages of how to do it and i can't find it when i searched for it in the year 2000 and i was told it took a while to get it done and they didn't think it was worth it.

The PCM (Powertrain Control Module) does not store information leading to the accident , it only monitors and controls the engine indepently

The BCM (Body Control Module) does not store information leading to the accident It only controls the power windows, door locks, Pass Key II security system, shock sensor and the circuity relating to security such as starter disable and fuel shutoff and etc

Here's more information about the black box in GM cars and there's an list of all the cars from GM which has the black box installed from 1996 to 2002.
http://www.techtv.com/news/print/0,2...391730,00.html

 

What's a DRL? because I'm looking to take out the stock monsoon and put in an mp3 player, but I'd like to know what the DRL is before I do so.
Thanks

 

DRL = daytime running lights
i THINK.

but it controls more than just that. like the hatch release, and a few other things?

 

So taking it out I would loose control of my hatch?

 

... i think it's more of a safety thing.. i'm pretty sure the hatch SHOULD still work.. but you could accidentally pop the hatch while driving.. that box prevents that.... i've heard different stories, though. the one on the link, below isIf you want to disable the Daytime driving lights, then you need to connect terminals A and B... a better description is here:

http://www.xse.com/leres/ss/drl.html

 

No need to remove the DRL for a new head unit, just pull it off of the rails it sits on and let it hang down.

 

Alright thanks.

 

thats true but it could also be used to convict u in a bad situation and most of us in our ls1 dont exactly drive the speed litmit all the time.

 

For it not to be used to be used against you, don't let the black box itself or the data from it be released or taken from it at all.

Here's a good way:
A) Put it on a rail, wait til the train comes tooting it's horn
B) Dip it in molten vat of metal (T3 movie "You're Terminated")
C) Slegehammer plus endless crushing by various means til pieces become unreconagizble
D) take an actyle torch to it
E) Put it inside the house's oil burner, tell the wife (it's the new circuit board in the blower motor breaking in... if electrical circuit board burning odor is detected)
F) + clamp on on side, - clamp on other side of box...call local nuclear powerplant to boost power to maximum, flip the switch and except a plasma ball to rise from eternity then a shatter...


Who drives the speed limit all the time anyway... It's a joke in some places.

For real, NYS extended the DOT study from 2004 to 2006 to raise the limit from 55 to 65mph (the study was started in 2000 )

like they need more time to study friggin speed limits!
(they can't extend it anymore as per NYS regulation which is now set after they extended it one more time)

 

The black box is not black. Its silver...its the airbag SDM module.

Most GM cars built since 1994 have a recording SDM. Most are located either under the center console or under the RF seat. GM cars with airbags since 1973 have recorded some crash data.

We actually have the equipment that can download the data. Its the Vetronix CDR. Its made by Vetronix. Its closer to $3000 rather than $2000. Vetronix was recently bought by Bosch. Vetronix also makes the current GM Tech 2.

On our website you can see the Vetronix CDR, SDM information and vehicle year coverage and location, and sample SDM crash data. See-

http://www.airbagcrash.com

Logan

 

If you had read the thread you would know that that has already been stated multiple times...

 

I did read the thread. There were comments that the box was black, the crash data is stored in the BCM or the PCM, the company that sells the equipment starts with the letter 'V', the equipment cost $2000, etc. Basically some bad info.

The intent of the post was to show a website, where, you can see the Vetronix CDR equipment, the airbag SDM, where the SDM is located, what years/models of GM cars have the recording SDM, and sample crash data that is stored in the SDM during a accident event.

Logan

 

Ah ok...thanks for clearing up some of that...After rereading my post too Id like to apologize, I didnt at all mean for it to sound like I was trying to be a jerk. I assumed that most ppl knew we referred to the sdm module as a black box b/c its similar to an airplane's black box, not based on the real color of the device. I initially thought it would be black because...well Im a moron, but once I was informed where the info was stored I became the wiser. Thanks again though for the information on this.

 

The reason they are called "black Boxes" is because aviation black boxes used to actually be black. Now they are red to make them easier to find.

--VIP1

 

Wrong, international orange with white markings

 

Orange, red, black,silver...same difference

 

Thanks for the pic.
I wrote from memory and I was generalizing.

--VIP1

 

Most people dont know that the crash data can be recovered.

117 mph sample data.....

http://www.airbagcrash.com/pages/2/index.htm

Logan
www.airbagcrash.com

 

Logan,

Thanks, but you already posted this on 02-02-2004, 08:54 AM.

--VIP1