Stereo Question! ? Please help
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Stereo Question! ? Please help I'm trying to overhaul my stereo that's basically blown... I got kick panels with components, components for the doors and i'm trying to figure out a solution to the sail panels because if i put speakers in there I need to get a 6 channel to power everything. I might have a kind of cool idea here, I saw some 6.5 subs 6w3 from jl. I would feel a lot better about getting a 4 channel to power the speakers and getting a mono for a set of subs in the sails? They have a depth of 4.25 and the cars depth is 3.75 can I mount these with a ring to push these out and have everything work well? What are your opinions on this idea???
Should work well, I would deaden the area inside and around the sail panel speaker. Also look into the digital designs w6.5 (ddaudio.com) subwoofer, I have had a lot of luck with them. What impedance are the components you're running? If they're 4 ohm you could put a big 4 channel in that's 2 ohm stereo stable and run the components off of two channels and the subs off of the other two channels. You would lose either fade or balance through the two pairs of components though. Also there are some nice 5 and 6 channel amps out there, don't rule them out.
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No matter how many times i try to explain people just don't listen. I have 2 pairs of components. FOUR 6.5 speakers and FOUR tweeters, I ALSO need to fill the sails. Thats TEN total speakers and 6 channels needed to power. So should I get a four channel for the components and just get a mono to power a set of 6.5 subs for the sails or get a 6 channel to power the TEN speakers (including subs in sails)... I also want future ability to put a ten in the back!
Ok let me explain, even though you have TEN total speakers, you can think of the components as coaxils since I assume you're running them passive (through a crossover) so you have FOUR crossovers total. That would mean FOUR channels of amplifier, or TWO if the amplifier is stable to that impedance. I personally would run a 5 or 6 channel amplifier but you don't have to! If you still wanted to add a sub in the back after this you could add a mono block later. People are listening, you may not understand what they are telling you but they are listening. Not exactly the best comments to make to someone that's trying to help you out.
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and still you ignore the facts, yes you are right there are four coaxial setups like I stated, a pair in the kick panels and a pair in the doors, that accounts for EIGHT of the speakers, there are STILL another PAIR in the sails... so once again.... SIX channels of needed power!
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Do not talk to me like im ignorant, i do understand what you are saying. Four crossovers equals eight of ten speakers, and after all of this i still need an ability to power at least a 10" sub later !!!!!!
I'm done trying to explain this to you. I see why I was the only one trying to help... You act like you've got it all figured out but you're on a forum asking questions, and I answered you but all you wanna do is argue. You got upset after my first reply because you were wanting to know what to do about adding a sub later, (after all TEN speakers) but you failed to mention anything about that in the first post. I still tried to help you but...Good luck, next time somebody tries to help you read everything they tell you.
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and still you ignore the facts, yes you are right there are four coaxial setups like I stated, a pair in the kick panels and a pair in the doors, that accounts for EIGHT of the speakers, there are STILL another PAIR in the sails... so once again.... SIX channels of needed power!
This morning I see you're making an *** of yourself and driving away anyone who might offer help. I suggest you clean up your act or else take it someplace else.
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I know I said I wouldn't help you anymore but this is what I was trying to explain. if you run a 4 channel on two sets of components you can devote two channels to mids+highs, two to bass. Most decent amps will allow you to do this (hpf for the front, lpf for rear or vice versa). The problem comes in when you use an amp that cannot handle the lower load (2ohm usually, depending on what impedance the comp.s you're using are) and it goes into protection to save itself from burning up. Most good amps are 2 ohm stereo stable so you can put a 2 ohm load, for ex. On the two front channels, where you'll have two sets of 4 ohm comp. The thing is with this type of setup you'll lose either fade or balance because you only have inputs for two channels. You really won't end up with less power either, most amps that are 2ohm stable stereo will gain power but lose stability at lower impedances (I'm sure you know, but ohm is a unit used to measure resistance, so as resistance decreases power increases) so say you have an amp that does 90wts per channel @ 4ohm, put the amp in 2ohm you now have (for ex.) 125wts or 180wts per channel.
Honestly I'm not trying to be rude or condescending, I'm just trying to be informative. You asked a question I did my best to answer. Also, with the setup you're trying to use you have a lot of different options, there are many different ways to set up this type of system.