Proximity based alarm system..Plus push button start?
Whatever happened with this? I actually came across it and thought it was pretty freaking sweet.
In all honesty you wouldn't even need the servo if you just remove the steering column lock all together. Apparently a lot of the later vettes either don't have or have disabled the column lock.
In all honesty you wouldn't even need the servo if you just remove the steering column lock all together. Apparently a lot of the later vettes either don't have or have disabled the column lock.
(Needed to pay for new tires
)I'm not an electronic guru so honestly I don't even know what that servo is doing.
I'll be just buying that plug and play kit and hoping my alarm guy can make it work with the RFID alarm system.
The vettes can get away with no column lock since their overall anti-theft is probably much more sophisticated.
I don't have full coverage on my only car so I rather not risk it.
The truth is I don't know how much of a protection the column lock provides on cars.
I 'm just kinda going on what I can find by own experiment, almost every vendor that sells these push button start kits has a disclaimer that says "delete column lock on your own risk", or something of that nature.
My current system has a timer for it to start the car on set time everyday, so I don't even have to use the remote to start. It starts the car 5 minutes before I leave my home.
This alarm plus push button start is something I'm trying to put together to simulate the complete key less system(no ignition or door key) like the c6.
The fob sits in your pocket, as you walk up to the car (within 10-15 feet) the doors unlock. When you press the push start button, the fob exchanges whatever the encrypted code it has with the car and the car starts without any key.
Last edited by bad_408_vert; Sep 15, 2010 at 10:09 AM.
FWIW, I went to lunch the other day with a coworker and he has a late model gm pickup, like 2008-09 and to my surprise it had a remote start system which allowed you to start the truck w/ac on to cool the cabin down, all I remember him doing was sticking the key in the ignition and off we went after he started the truck from across the parking lot, I even asked if that was a stock gm system and he replied; YES. I was surprised to see GM trucks came with this (optional I am sure)
Yep all the new after market alarms let you do that, I'm sure GM finally caught onto some of modern features. I usually leave the AC on and turn the car off so ac would be on next time I start the car.
The vettes can get away with no column lock since their overall anti-theft is probably much more sophisticated.
I'm not an electronic guru so honestly I don't even know what that servo is doing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCofZdpVr1U
Ah okay, I see the purpose of the servo and what you meant by deleting the key completely.
BTW how hard do think it is to replicate what that guy with the mustang is doing as far as creating that circuitry with relays and buttons?
BTW how hard do think it is to replicate what that guy with the mustang is doing as far as creating that circuitry with relays and buttons?
I don't think it's impossible, I guess it depends on someones level of skill.
1st thing is he has an alarm installed. so when he disarms it, there is power available in the car.
then you'd have to figure out the wiring at the ignition switch.
1st button he pushes is basically the same as you turning your key back towards you just turn on your interior accessories
2nd button would be like you turning the key away from you once where you would here stuff like the fuel pump start.
3rd button is the equivalent of you turning your key.
So I would guess maybe one relay for each.
The hardest part is the servo in the steering column. you would want to find a powerful and small servo to fit in there somehow, ideally if you remove your ignition lock then something that would fit in there. (Not impossible but for me more of PITA then it's worth.) Then you would have to send a signal to shut the servo down after it has unlocked the steering wheel...here I'm a little lost (maybe programing making an arudino board to control the servo or maybe something much easier.)
But take all of this with a huge rock of salt since I have a little bit of electronic experience; this is what it looks like to me it may be much easier or tons more difficult.
1st thing is he has an alarm installed. so when he disarms it, there is power available in the car.
then you'd have to figure out the wiring at the ignition switch.
1st button he pushes is basically the same as you turning your key back towards you just turn on your interior accessories
2nd button would be like you turning the key away from you once where you would here stuff like the fuel pump start.
3rd button is the equivalent of you turning your key.
So I would guess maybe one relay for each.
The hardest part is the servo in the steering column. you would want to find a powerful and small servo to fit in there somehow, ideally if you remove your ignition lock then something that would fit in there. (Not impossible but for me more of PITA then it's worth.) Then you would have to send a signal to shut the servo down after it has unlocked the steering wheel...here I'm a little lost (maybe programing making an arudino board to control the servo or maybe something much easier.)
But take all of this with a huge rock of salt since I have a little bit of electronic experience; this is what it looks like to me it may be much easier or tons more difficult.
No prob. I'm sure some electronic gurus and alarm installers here can probably be much more helpful.
Here are some links which might be of interest:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/hard...-access-2.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...t-mod-how.html
Here are some links which might be of interest:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/hard...-access-2.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...t-mod-how.html
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Nice, Im wondering if it has good security though. Seems like a good option I haven't been able to tackle this because its on my bottom of my list, I need to get an Idle issue sorted out, I need Paint, then replace carpet, and then I'll look into an alarm, so im a ways out 
Why the hell can't I have my cake and eat it too? I want to use my Viper 5902, with all the optional sensors and such, then have:
Keyless ignition
Unlock when I walk up to it
Smart start
My S2000 pushbutton
Maybe use a reed switch like suggested above
I mean is that to much to ask for?
Also, if I were ya'll, I wouldn't worry about the column lock. I always thought it was a good feature, till the other day when I went to the junk yard and needed a bolt for my car, but couldn't get to without turning the wheel. It was rather easy to break the column lock believe it or not, so someone even slightly on the strong side could do it rather easy without it even being a hindrance.
Keyless ignition
Unlock when I walk up to it
Smart start
My S2000 pushbutton
Maybe use a reed switch like suggested above
I mean is that to much to ask for?
Also, if I were ya'll, I wouldn't worry about the column lock. I always thought it was a good feature, till the other day when I went to the junk yard and needed a bolt for my car, but couldn't get to without turning the wheel. It was rather easy to break the column lock believe it or not, so someone even slightly on the strong side could do it rather easy without it even being a hindrance.
Why the hell can't I have my cake and eat it too? I want to use my Viper 5902, with all the optional sensors and such, then have:
Keyless ignition
Unlock when I walk up to it
Smart start
My S2000 pushbutton
Maybe use a reed switch like suggested above
I mean is that to much to ask for?
Keyless ignition
Unlock when I walk up to it
Smart start
My S2000 pushbutton
Maybe use a reed switch like suggested above
I mean is that to much to ask for?
The only feature that isn't possible is doors unlocking when you walk because lassokey is a totally operate alarm. I'm not sure if it 'd integrate into the viper or doubt you 'd want two different alarms.
You can probably do all of that given that it doesn't interfere with each other.
The only feature that isn't possible is doors unlocking when you walk because lassokey is a totally operate alarm. I'm not sure if it 'd integrate into the viper or doubt you 'd want two different alarms.
The only feature that isn't possible is doors unlocking when you walk because lassokey is a totally operate alarm. I'm not sure if it 'd integrate into the viper or doubt you 'd want two different alarms.
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I want this as well, some guys over at mp3car are doing this with blue tooth to turn there carpc's on unlock there doors and put power to there push button when they walk up. I want something similar to theres. Walk up, car alarm disables, doors unlock, and send current to a push button start. I want one switch so that when i press it for under a second it turns on my ACC, when i press it and hold it it turns my starter until i let go, and then if i press it after it starts it shuts the car off. I want to remove my key from my column and relocate it somewhere for emergencies, but not need to use it on day to day basis.
I want this as well, some guys over at mp3car are doing this with blue tooth to turn there carpc's on unlock there doors and put power to there push button when they walk up. I want something similar to theres. Walk up, car alarm disables, doors unlock, and send current to a push button start. I want one switch so that when i press it for under a second it turns on my ACC, when i press it and hold it it turns my starter until i let go, and then if i press it after it starts it shuts the car off. I want to remove my key from my column and relocate it somewhere for emergencies, but not need to use it on day to day basis.
I'm looking into an alarm system by lasso key.
The remote is really cool, similar to systems in vettes & nissan.
The fob stays in your pocket and if your close to the car the doors unlock.
I Want to add a fully functional push button start to this alarm.
So my question is can I delete the ignition key(also !vats), and connect the ignition and fuel pump relays to this alarm's key fob?
Ultimately what I Want to do with this is..walk to the car, the doors would unlock and car's accesories turn on and car starts with push of the button.
EDIT:
These are alarm systems that does everything discussed in this thread so far.
The fob completely removes the need for a door key or an ignition key.
Ebay Alarm
Stardrive
The remote is really cool, similar to systems in vettes & nissan.
The fob stays in your pocket and if your close to the car the doors unlock.
I Want to add a fully functional push button start to this alarm.
So my question is can I delete the ignition key(also !vats), and connect the ignition and fuel pump relays to this alarm's key fob?
Ultimately what I Want to do with this is..walk to the car, the doors would unlock and car's accesories turn on and car starts with push of the button.
EDIT:
These are alarm systems that does everything discussed in this thread so far.
The fob completely removes the need for a door key or an ignition key.
Ebay Alarm
Stardrive