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Thanks! I'm still doing this mod, just short on funds right now.
(Needed to pay for new tires )

I'm not an electronic guru so honestly I don't even know what that servo is doing.
I'll be just buying that plug and play kit and hoping my alarm guy can make it work with the RFID alarm system.

The vettes can get away with no column lock since their overall anti-theft is probably much more sophisticated.

I don't have full coverage on my only car so I rather not risk it.

The truth is I don't know how much of a protection the column lock provides on cars.
I 'm just kinda going on what I can find by own experiment, almost every vendor that sells these push button start kits has a disclaimer that says "delete column lock on your own risk", or something of that nature.

I agree with you 100%, remote starts only pay off if you want to warm up the car in any given scenario. I.E.
My current system has a timer for it to start the car on set time everyday, so I don't even have to use the remote to start. It starts the car 5 minutes before I leave my home.

This alarm plus push button start is something I'm trying to put together to simulate the complete key less system(no ignition or door key) like the c6.

The fob sits in your pocket, as you walk up to the car (within 10-15 feet) the doors unlock. When you press the push start button, the fob exchanges whatever the encrypted code it has with the car and the car starts without any key.

99'CajunFirehawk157

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FWIW, I went to lunch the other day with a coworker and he has a late model gm pickup, like 2008-09 and to my surprise it had a remote start system which allowed you to start the truck w/ac on to cool the cabin down, all I remember him doing was sticking the key in the ignition and off we went after he started the truck from across the parking lot, I even asked if that was a stock gm system and he replied; YES. I was surprised to see GM trucks came with this (optional I am sure)

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Yep all the new after market alarms let you do that, I'm sure GM finally caught onto some of modern features. I usually leave the AC on and turn the car off so ac would be on next time I start the car.

nebur8

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It sounds like their system is similar to ours, the reason I say bypass it all together is because of all the issues they have had with it: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...-please-1.html

the servo is unlocking the steering column. just imagine the duck as your lock turning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCofZdpVr1U

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Ah okay, I see the purpose of the servo and what you meant by deleting the key completely.

BTW how hard do think it is to replicate what that guy with the mustang is doing as far as creating that circuitry with relays and buttons?

nebur8

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I don't think it's impossible, I guess it depends on someones level of skill.

1st thing is he has an alarm installed. so when he disarms it, there is power available in the car.

then you'd have to figure out the wiring at the ignition switch.

1st button he pushes is basically the same as you turning your key back towards you just turn on your interior accessories

2nd button would be like you turning the key away from you once where you would here stuff like the fuel pump start.

3rd button is the equivalent of you turning your key.

So I would guess maybe one relay for each.

The hardest part is the servo in the steering column. you would want to find a powerful and small servo to fit in there somehow, ideally if you remove your ignition lock then something that would fit in there. (Not impossible but for me more of PITA then it's worth.) Then you would have to send a signal to shut the servo down after it has unlocked the steering wheel...here I'm a little lost (maybe programing making an arudino board to control the servo or maybe something much easier.)

But take all of this with a huge rock of salt since I have a little bit of electronic experience; this is what it looks like to me it may be much easier or tons more difficult.

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Cool

Thanks for your input.

nebur8

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No prob. I'm sure some electronic gurus and alarm installers here can probably be much more helpful.

Here are some links which might be of interest:
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/hard...-access-2.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...t-mod-how.html

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Just added a link to an existing alarm system in my first post.

emenny81

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Nice, Im wondering if it has good security though. Seems like a good option I haven't been able to tackle this because its on my bottom of my list, I need to get an Idle issue sorted out, I need Paint, then replace carpet, and then I'll look into an alarm, so im a ways out

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Why the hell can't I have my cake and eat it too? I want to use my Viper 5902, with all the optional sensors and such, then have:

Keyless ignition
Unlock when I walk up to it
Smart start
My S2000 pushbutton
Maybe use a reed switch like suggested above

I mean is that to much to ask for?

Also, if I were ya'll, I wouldn't worry about the column lock. I always thought it was a good feature, till the other day when I went to the junk yard and needed a bolt for my car, but couldn't get to without turning the wheel. It was rather easy to break the column lock believe it or not, so someone even slightly on the strong side could do it rather easy without it even being a hindrance.

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You can probably do all of that given that it doesn't interfere with each other.

The only feature that isn't possible is doors unlocking when you walk because lassokey is a totally operate alarm. I'm not sure if it 'd integrate into the viper or doubt you 'd want two different alarms.

squee

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Thats the main problem. If I wanted all of that, I'd have to have 2 separate alarms, which I don't think that would be a problem, but I don't really wanna have to deal with that for one, and for two, I'd have to carry the key fob for the LassoKey as well as the one for the Viper, depending on if the Smartstart app can do all the functions the remote can, like pop the hatch, and the other aux inputs (I think it has like 4 or 6 total). The the whole problem of figuring out how to disarm the Viper when the LassoKey unlocks the doors, otherwise the Viper would go off.

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I want this as well, some guys over at mp3car are doing this with blue tooth to turn there carpc's on unlock there doors and put power to there push button when they walk up. I want something similar to theres. Walk up, car alarm disables, doors unlock, and send current to a push button start. I want one switch so that when i press it for under a second it turns on my ACC, when i press it and hold it it turns my starter until i let go, and then if i press it after it starts it shuts the car off. I want to remove my key from my column and relocate it somewhere for emergencies, but not need to use it on day to day basis.

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You got a link to that?

emenny81

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StarDrive looks better than the ebay choice..... nice find.

emenny81

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Did any of you get to install stardrive ??

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I only found 1 actual buyer's review about stardrive and it was all terrible, So I backed away from it.

emenny81

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yeah I know which one you are referring to, Im going to research more and see what I can find.

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Link?