AVH-4300/CDT install thread
#23
Is this right?
The amp has a mono sub out but has two positives/negatives that are wired parallel inside the amp.
The directions say the amp shouldn't be wired for anything below 2ohms. 300w@2 ohms, 250@3 and 200@4.
I'm wondering if I can run it paralleled off the amp. Have each of the power outputs from the sub go to each voice coil. I don't know what my ohms would be though. I really don't understand this ****. LOL
The amp has a mono sub out but has two positives/negatives that are wired parallel inside the amp.
The directions say the amp shouldn't be wired for anything below 2ohms. 300w@2 ohms, 250@3 and 200@4.
I'm wondering if I can run it paralleled off the amp. Have each of the power outputs from the sub go to each voice coil. I don't know what my ohms would be though. I really don't understand this ****. LOL
Last edited by LilJayV10; 07-03-2011 at 02:20 PM.
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That is right, same type of diagram I sent you in the PM. You have it right, and it will hit fine at 4ohm.
You can't run it parallel as the amp is not 1ohm stable on that channel and could damage it if it is not made to run at 1ohm. 2 and 4ohm is fine on that amp. Remember double the power is not double the sound output, it only increases about 2-3db. With the bass boost and tuning the sub channel you will have plenty of bass.
You can't run it parallel as the amp is not 1ohm stable on that channel and could damage it if it is not made to run at 1ohm. 2 and 4ohm is fine on that amp. Remember double the power is not double the sound output, it only increases about 2-3db. With the bass boost and tuning the sub channel you will have plenty of bass.
#25
OK. Thanks for the response. I got your PM. It's hard to not get caught up in the numbers especially when you don't know what they mean. It's kinda like dyno numbers.
As long as it will still hit hard that's all that I am concerned about. I won't have anything to compare it to anyway.
As long as it will still hit hard that's all that I am concerned about. I won't have anything to compare it to anyway.
#28
Well I worked on the damn thing for 8 hours today. Wired the sub to 4ohms.I got the drivers door back together including speakers, ESOlite. Took the passenger door apart, replaced the window motor, installed Raamatt, ESOlite and both speakers. Hooked up both crossovers.
All the speakers work. I swear the passenger side tweeter is louder that the drivers. I know I have everything wired up right.
Anyhow I know it needs to be tuned. I was looking through the amp directions and it was explaining how to do it. Wow I have a lot to learn before I do it.
I know having it calibrated is important. I had my home theather and TV calibrated several years back and it made a huge difference.
Ian, get ready for some questions. LOL.
All the speakers work. I swear the passenger side tweeter is louder that the drivers. I know I have everything wired up right.
Anyhow I know it needs to be tuned. I was looking through the amp directions and it was explaining how to do it. Wow I have a lot to learn before I do it.
I know having it calibrated is important. I had my home theather and TV calibrated several years back and it made a huge difference.
Ian, get ready for some questions. LOL.
#29
Actually I think I might have the tweeters wired backwards. I remember the instructions from my wifes truck that the wire with the tracer is the positive. I'm use to the tracer wire being negative. I've looked through the instructions for my component speakers and it doesn't say.
I just did a google search and found a response from Ian on the matter on this forum.
Son of a...
I just did a google search and found a response from Ian on the matter on this forum.
Son of a...
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Also check the crossover. They are adjustable and the output may be adjusted differently on one. You have to take the top off the crossover...it just pops off and then you have a switch. Put the switch on +3 and then adjust it on the head unit as needed. At +3 it has full output. That way you can adjust it down on your head unit accordingly through the EQ settings.
#32
I finished up the last of it tonight. Installed the PAC SWI-PS. Once my newby *** realized the connector you splice into is the factory radio harness it didn't take to long. My second attempt was successful and it works great.
With a lot of help from Ian I started calibrating the system. I think i have a little to much power to the front's and not enough to the mids. I don't know if it would be better to turn the gain down on the amp or use the fader and bias the rear speakers a little more.
I secured the wires to the inside of the door to keep them away from the window.
Here's few pics of my finishing the doors. I put some ESOlite around the rods in the doors. The rods on the door latch I couldn't get a good pic of but I'm sure everyone gets the idea. Mine always seem to rattle.
I then put one piece of ESOlite covering the door. Before anyone says "You will have to replace the window motor again", I attached the ESOlite to the plastic weather barrier and cut the holes out for the window adjustments. So when I do have to replace the motor the ESOlite will come off in one piece.
I got about half of the interior in tonight. It was nice to have everything out to clean it. I put the front seats in and I had to go drive it. It's been over two months since I have.
All I can say is wow. The car doesn't rattle/vibrate like it did before. The doors sound solid when I close them instead of hollow and stuff rattling around inside.
I had the windows down and the t tops out but the sound quality was still great and the sub still shook the car.
I watched the beginning of Transformers. It's pretty cool to have surround sound in your car.
A little more tweeking of the inputs and maybe some break in time for the speakers and I think it will be just about perfect.
Thanks to Ian for all of his patience, help and some really good products.
Thanks for Dennis@ DD for a great looking bezel.
After I get the interior back in this weekend I will take some pics.
With a lot of help from Ian I started calibrating the system. I think i have a little to much power to the front's and not enough to the mids. I don't know if it would be better to turn the gain down on the amp or use the fader and bias the rear speakers a little more.
I secured the wires to the inside of the door to keep them away from the window.
Here's few pics of my finishing the doors. I put some ESOlite around the rods in the doors. The rods on the door latch I couldn't get a good pic of but I'm sure everyone gets the idea. Mine always seem to rattle.
I then put one piece of ESOlite covering the door. Before anyone says "You will have to replace the window motor again", I attached the ESOlite to the plastic weather barrier and cut the holes out for the window adjustments. So when I do have to replace the motor the ESOlite will come off in one piece.
I got about half of the interior in tonight. It was nice to have everything out to clean it. I put the front seats in and I had to go drive it. It's been over two months since I have.
All I can say is wow. The car doesn't rattle/vibrate like it did before. The doors sound solid when I close them instead of hollow and stuff rattling around inside.
I had the windows down and the t tops out but the sound quality was still great and the sub still shook the car.
I watched the beginning of Transformers. It's pretty cool to have surround sound in your car.
A little more tweeking of the inputs and maybe some break in time for the speakers and I think it will be just about perfect.
Thanks to Ian for all of his patience, help and some really good products.
Thanks for Dennis@ DD for a great looking bezel.
After I get the interior back in this weekend I will take some pics.
#33
Everything looks great LilJay. Props to you for doing your homework and doing the dirty work yourself. I've been talking to Ian myself about what package would suit my needs, he'll definitely be hearing from me in the next couple weeks for sure. How do you like the Pioneer HU? For the life of me I cannot chose between a Pioneer/Kenwood/Sony in dash dvd unit. Specifically, how is the EQ function?
And again, very nice job man!
And again, very nice job man!
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Pioneer, Kenwood, and JVC would be my top picks. The JVC and Pioneer units are great bang for the buck. I am not a big fan of Sony. I used one of there nicer units that came in my DD truck and I was not impressed with the sound at all. I have a JVC in there now and it sounds great. Been using JVC for years in my vehicles. I do like Pioneer though but they have a more processed sound to me. I like to have a more natural sound and add to it if I need to.
The EQ function is a 10 band I think? I remember it was a large EQ not your basic high mid low. Anyway it works very well and is easy to access along with the other menus is very easy to operate and works well.
The EQ function is a 10 band I think? I remember it was a large EQ not your basic high mid low. Anyway it works very well and is easy to access along with the other menus is very easy to operate and works well.
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Everything looks great LilJay. Props to you for doing your homework and doing the dirty work yourself. I've been talking to Ian myself about what package would suit my needs, he'll definitely be hearing from me in the next couple weeks for sure. How do you like the Pioneer HU? For the life of me I cannot chose between a Pioneer/Kenwood/Sony in dash dvd unit. Specifically, how is the EQ function?
And again, very nice job man!
And again, very nice job man!
#39
Thanks for the reply Rare96!
I took the car out today and washed it. It's in need of some clear coat correction something fierce! That's next on the list.
Washed the car and took it to the house. Wife made a comment the car looked nice as it had been in the driveway for two months now with me working on it. As anyone who works on car's for a living knows you get to work on your **** last.
She listened to it for a few minutes and was like yeah it sounds good. Worked at the house all day and went and picked her up. I was thinking "good"? **** woman you just don't know.
Long story short I took her out in the car tonight and played a few of her favorite songs. She started grinning from ear to ear. Next she is messing with the settings on the H/U.
Ian, I have spent thousands on suspension parts, Koni's, Strano springs/bars, Watt's setup you name it....nothing.
Heads/cam/Intake 430rwhp.....nothing.
Pioneer/CDT/JL.......wet.
She want's to do a Cobra kit car with a LS turbo motor(that was my idea)and she starts yelling, I want my car to sound like that.
I am very fortunate to get to work on some pretty rare cars any my job but I don't think I have ever seen her THIS excited.
The sound quality is fantastic. It can get louder than I can listen to it. Ian you were right. The bass is tight but is stupid loud when you turn it up. With the H/U setup right the air coming off the speakers will actually move your clothes you are wearing.
Everything is really tight. It's not just noise that shakes the whole car. If a good hip hop/rap song comes on you can turn the sub up some and shake the **** out of the car but still sound good.
I think some of it has to do with the sound deading I did. I say this with really no way to compare it. As I said the sub hits extremely hard but is tight. There are no vibrations and no rattles. As the wife put it. "It doesn't sound ghetto."
Very happy with it.
I took the car out today and washed it. It's in need of some clear coat correction something fierce! That's next on the list.
Washed the car and took it to the house. Wife made a comment the car looked nice as it had been in the driveway for two months now with me working on it. As anyone who works on car's for a living knows you get to work on your **** last.
She listened to it for a few minutes and was like yeah it sounds good. Worked at the house all day and went and picked her up. I was thinking "good"? **** woman you just don't know.
Long story short I took her out in the car tonight and played a few of her favorite songs. She started grinning from ear to ear. Next she is messing with the settings on the H/U.
Ian, I have spent thousands on suspension parts, Koni's, Strano springs/bars, Watt's setup you name it....nothing.
Heads/cam/Intake 430rwhp.....nothing.
Pioneer/CDT/JL.......wet.
She want's to do a Cobra kit car with a LS turbo motor(that was my idea)and she starts yelling, I want my car to sound like that.
I am very fortunate to get to work on some pretty rare cars any my job but I don't think I have ever seen her THIS excited.
The sound quality is fantastic. It can get louder than I can listen to it. Ian you were right. The bass is tight but is stupid loud when you turn it up. With the H/U setup right the air coming off the speakers will actually move your clothes you are wearing.
Everything is really tight. It's not just noise that shakes the whole car. If a good hip hop/rap song comes on you can turn the sub up some and shake the **** out of the car but still sound good.
I think some of it has to do with the sound deading I did. I say this with really no way to compare it. As I said the sub hits extremely hard but is tight. There are no vibrations and no rattles. As the wife put it. "It doesn't sound ghetto."
Very happy with it.
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http://www.autotrix.net/Product-Pass...Fix-Kit_1.aspx
I used the instructions in this thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/stereo-el...step-pics.html
Door crack fix:
http://www.highperformancepontiac.co...air/index.html