Wiring, Stereo & Electronics Audio Components | Radars | Alarms - and things that spark when they shouldn't

Rewiring high beams to flash

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 21, 2013 | 12:27 PM
  #1  
Phantom_WS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Macedonia, Europe
Default Rewiring high beams to flash

Hi,

I want to rewire my high beams on my 01 camaro to be able to flash them at anytime not just when my lights are on..is this possible?
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2013 | 12:44 PM
  #2  
pewterformula's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 90
Likes: 1
From: Rockwall County, TX
Default

An alternating flash, or simply flashing at the same time?
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2013 | 06:02 PM
  #3  
Daniel Richards's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 2,769
Likes: 0
From: Ellijay, GA
Default

I think he wants to be able to flash his highs without having to turn his headlights on first, you know like how many people do to warn oncoming traffic of something ahead in the road (cop, accident, idiot on a bicycle, you know things like that), I would say if camaros are like firebirds when it comes to the actual switch, probably not and it's not a wiring thing so much as it is how the stalk just is, there is no lightly tap it, it's either on or off.
Reply
Old Jul 21, 2013 | 06:41 PM
  #4  
WhiteBird00's Avatar
Ungrounded Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 11,325
Likes: 342
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
Default

Actually, there is a way you can rewire the switch. As Daniel says, you still have to pull once to turn on and again to turn off because of the design of the switch, but even that won't work unless you can route power to the high beams without the lights being on.

The Camaro headlight dimmer switch is wired differently from the Firebird. In the stock configuration, all power to the headlights goes through the switch which just flips between the low beam circuit and the high beam circuit.

The wiring modification involves bypassing the switch for low beams and then providing another power source to the switch for the high beams. Remove the yellow wire from the headlight dimmer switch B terminal and the tan wire from the switch C terminal then connect the two wires together and properly insulate the connection. Now splice a large gauge (10 or 12) wire into the red wire at the headlight switch and run it to the B terminal of the headlight dimmer switch (where the yellow wire was originally).

Now your low beams will work exactly the way they always did except that they will stay on when you switch to high beams (a side effect that most people appreciate). The high beams are now powered separately so you can flash them or use them without requiring the other lights to be on.
Reply
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 04:25 PM
  #5  
Phantom_WS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Macedonia, Europe
Default

Daniel Richards, that is exactly what I need! As I live in Europe, this is used very frequently. I know that I will still have to click the switch on and off since the stalk is such that there is no tap on-off.

WhiteBird00, thank you for the instructions! Where do I find those wires though? Are they under the dash? I already did that one mod where my low beams stay on while I flash my high beams...

Also, have you guys ever heard of something as putting in another stalk from a Cadillac? I believe there was some talk around that but I cannot find the website.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 01:18 AM
  #6  
VIP1's Avatar
Copy & Paste Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 9,764
Likes: 207
From: Eastern MA
Default

I thought you could flash the Camaro high beams with the headlights off just like any other non-popup headlight car for ages.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 08:33 AM
  #7  
WhiteBird00's Avatar
Ungrounded Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 11,325
Likes: 342
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
Default

Originally Posted by Phantom_WS6
Daniel Richards, that is exactly what I need! As I live in Europe, this is used very frequently. I know that I will still have to click the switch on and off since the stalk is such that there is no tap on-off.

WhiteBird00, thank you for the instructions! Where do I find those wires though? Are they under the dash? I already did that one mod where my low beams stay on while I flash my high beams...

Also, have you guys ever heard of something as putting in another stalk from a Cadillac? I believe there was some talk around that but I cannot find the website.
If you have already done the high beam mod that adds a jumper at the headlight dimmer switch then this mod would be in exactly the same place. You just have to replace the jumper between the yellow and tan wires that you added before with a direct connection of those two wires (i.e. remove the yellow wire from the switch or cut it just above the switch). Then you add a wire from the back of your headlight switch (left side of dash) to where the yellow wire was on the dimmer switch.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 08:45 AM
  #8  
wssix99's Avatar
Save the manuals!
15 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,967
Likes: 389
From: Chicago, IL
Default

I recall that this has come up before. Isn't one of the limitations that the flash won't work on a Firebird unless the headlights are on and the doors are up? I recall that this mod will not open the doors and flash the lights with just a pull of the lever.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 08:48 AM
  #9  
WhiteBird00's Avatar
Ungrounded Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 11,325
Likes: 342
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
Default

Yup, that's very true. But in this case, the OP is asking about an 01 Camaro (despite the WS6 in the screen name).

It should be possible to modify the wiring of a Firebird to both raise the lights and flash the high beams but who would want to have their headlights popping up and down that much?
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 02:44 PM
  #10  
Phantom_WS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Macedonia, Europe
Default

Ok, I see. If I splice into a yellow wire instead of a red one and connect it to where the yellow was on the headlight dimmer switch, then I should have power to the high beams even without the ignition on right? Since the yellow is usually a battery constant.

I want to also be able to flash the high beams even if the ignition is not on.

By the way, the WS6 in my screen name refers to a beautiful red 01 WS6 I had a few years ago and I sold it..still cannot get over that car.

It was a bright red, black leather, m6, low 30s mileage, perfect. It was also bone stock. All I did to it was a skip shift eliminator.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 02:56 PM
  #11  
WhiteBird00's Avatar
Ungrounded Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 11,325
Likes: 342
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
Default

Don't EVER make assumptions about a wire based on how that color is used elsewhere in the car. Yellow wires abound in the car and only a small percentage are actually fused constant (battery) power.

In this case, the red wire at the headlight switch IS a fused constant power source although I have no idea why anyone would want to flash high beams without the car running. Remember that you must ensure you turn the high beams off or you will run the battery down very quickly - the headlights are not part of the "battery saver" circuit like the courtesy lights.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 03:16 PM
  #12  
Phantom_WS6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
From: Macedonia, Europe
Default

So then if that red wire is a constant power source, will I be able to flash them while without ignition? Its useful while standing in place to signal someone you know...
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 04:02 PM
  #13  
WhiteBird00's Avatar
Ungrounded Moderator
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 11,325
Likes: 342
From: Jacksonville, FL (originally from Toronto Canada)
Default

Yes, the red wire at the headlight switch has power at all times regardless of the ignition being on or not - just like the headlights.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2013 | 07:50 PM
  #14  
wssix99's Avatar
Save the manuals!
15 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 12,967
Likes: 389
From: Chicago, IL
Default

Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
Yup, that's very true. But in this case, the OP is asking about an 01 Camaro (despite the WS6 in the screen name).
Thanks. I missed that one.

Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
who would want to have their headlights popping up and down that much?
Not me - particularly with these motors!
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:59 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE