Hey everyone,

I did an ABS delete in my 2002 Camaro. Right now I just have the original plug dangling until I figure out the electrical portion. The dash illuminates Brake, ABS inop, and Service Vehicle. I've never been into one of these clusters, so I'm not sure if pulling the ABS bulb is a possibility, but I'd still like to retain function of the other two lights. Is this possible? I have a Tech 2 and the service manuals, so I'm sure I can figure out a way to fool it into thinking everything is okay if I study long enough. I just figured I'd ask here first in case somebody has already figured this out! Thanks in advance.

 

Oops. Can this get moved over to the brakes section? I don't know how I managed to put it into stereos and electronics.

EDIT: I did read the sticky, but that was referencing a '98 which I've heard does not work the same way for '99+ cars. Not sure if this is true, but I guess I;ll compare the info to the service manual later tonight.

 

hey man did u ever get this figured out? I went to ground wires like the sticky said to find out I don’t have those wires in my 02. Did u study the solution?

 

you cant do it. on 96 or 97 and earlier cars you can get rid of one of them by grounding.....only permanent solution is to open up cluster and break the bulbs

 

What about turning it off in HPtuners is that possible?

 

HP tuners will not help here.

 

Feel free to search all u want, but its not possible. If u search u will see lots of people asking this question, but no threads about solving this problem.......without breaking bulbs

 

I'd suggest removing the bulb instead of breaking it. The dash bulbs are generally removable.

 

From what I understand, it’s a non removable LED on the printed circuit board ...so what would I do, just crunch it with a pair of needle nose ? And I guess I’ll do the same to the brake LED..

suprising in all this time nobody has produced some type of module or resistor to fool the ebcm into turning the lights off. So many people have swapped rears just deal with the lights?

 

u cant fudge a canbis signal. You cant trick it. Thats y nobody has fixed it. The type of code is defeatable.

yea these bulbs are non serviceable. U will need to do break 4 bulbs if its a tcs car. Brake, asr off, abs inop, service vehicle

 

Non traction contol. So I’ll break the abs inop. The brake, u say service vehicle?youre Not talking about the SES right. There’s another?

 

Def dont touch ses light.....

so its either 99 or 2000, these cars to 2002 have a service vehicle light as well that will come on when u unplug abs module.

 

I ended up pulling the cluster and sticking electrical tape on the back side of the face. That way I wasn't breaking bulbs, but they still wouldn't shine.

 

this also is ano option

 

I took care of it tonight and I wanna share how I did it. I hate when people ask, get it figured out and then never share results.

so I pulled cluster. 2x 7mm bolts on top side of plastic bezel, pop the bottom of it out and remove it, tilt wheel as far down as u can. Unthread tilt stick, and remove plastic cover on backside of turn signal stalk. Remove 4 7mm bolts on all 4 corners of cluster. Pull it straight towards u to unplug it. Then weasel it out of there. It’s a little pain but you will get it.

so now cluster is out. I turned it over, removed the 2 silver torq head screws around where it plugs in, and then all plastic tabs all around to removed the black plastic back cover. Then moved those same little tabs to seperate the green circuit board from the unit. There is a connector inside that is hard to get to, u will see it, I didn’t unplug it, I was able to seperate it far enough and turn circuit board to get to led bulbs I needed to remove with unplugging that little connector in the middle

I triple checked which leds were which by comparing the led location to the face of cluster to make sure they were correct again and again: once verified I grabbed the ABS INOP, BRAKE, and SERVICE VEHICLE led’s with a pair of pliers and broke them off the circuit board completely. Just grab and wiggle back and forth and they will come right off.

then I put it all back together. Then I flipped it over and separated the black plastic front/lens by depressing 6x plastic tabs to clean the inside making sure not to put finger prints on the overlay and not to mess with the needles. Then I put back together

I went to put it back in the car, and had a real tough time trying to get it back into its spot so what I did was seperate the front lens off it again, and very carefully putting the gauge side in, plugged into the dash, then snapped the plastic lens onto it. Was much easier. Just be careful of gauge needles and the trip reset stick. Then bolt it all back in, put trim on and test! Mine works great with no annoying lights! Hope this helps others since others helped me! Thanks!

 

Also, there’s like 8 regular incandescent bulbs for the back lighting on the backside. I tested them all since I had the cluster out already. Just use a drill battery or something to test each bulb. There’s no polarity. To remove from cluster just turn 1/2 a turn to the left and pull out , u will see them.