Does anyone have one 10" on the drivers side panel in the hatch?
07-22-2004, 06:25 AM
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Does anyone have one 10" on the drivers side panel in the hatch? I ordered one of those boxes to put a sub back there. Does it sound good? Amp is going to be 300watt rms what sub should I throw back there?
Oh, and yes, it does sound good. 
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It sounds good if you are using the proper equipment and the box is made properly. Some of the cheaper boxes are made out of plastic or MDF which in my opinion dont sound as good as a fiberglass enclosure. I had a JL Stealthbox and it sound great though you have to understand what your getting out of it. Stealth boxes are designed to fill in the bottom end of your system. But if your looking for mind numbing bass best to look elsewhere as that is not what they are intended for and your just gonna be blowing up subwoofers.
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Originally Posted by maddboost
It sounds good if you are using the proper equipment and the box is made properly. Some of the cheaper boxes are made out of plastic or MDF which in my opinion dont sound as good as a fiberglass enclosure. I had a JL Stealthbox and it sound great though you have to understand what your getting out of it. Stealth boxes are designed to fill in the bottom end of your system. But if your looking for mind numbing bass best to look elsewhere as that is not what they are intended for and your just gonna be blowing up subwoofers.
Recently, I put a single Diamond Audio M610D2 in a Hooker Audio Camaro pocket box, with a JBL BP 300.1 (I think, it was the customer's amp) running at 1 ohm (yeah I know, not supposed to) and it metered at 137.1 db with an Audiocontrol mic, on the dash. If this isn't enough bass for most of you, then you gotta look into something in the T-top well.
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Originally Posted by retsell
3/4 inch MDF is just as strong as 1/4" fiberglass, and it flexes less. You can buy a box for the pocket for 99.00 retail, or have one made for about 350-400 retail. Take your pick.
Recently, I put a single Diamond Audio M610D2 in a Hooker Audio Camaro pocket box, with a JBL BP 300.1 (I think, it was the customer's amp) running at 1 ohm (yeah I know, not supposed to) and it metered at 137.1 db with an Audiocontrol mic, on the dash. If this isn't enough bass for most of you, then you gotta look into something in the T-top well.
Recently, I put a single Diamond Audio M610D2 in a Hooker Audio Camaro pocket box, with a JBL BP 300.1 (I think, it was the customer's amp) running at 1 ohm (yeah I know, not supposed to) and it metered at 137.1 db with an Audiocontrol mic, on the dash. If this isn't enough bass for most of you, then you gotta look into something in the T-top well.
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Originally Posted by lazyj02
Where could I find the box and amp that you ran in the camaro? The setup sounds like something Id like to run in my car.
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Originally Posted by retsell
3/4 inch MDF is just as strong as 1/4" fiberglass, and it flexes less. You can buy a box for the pocket for 99.00 retail, or have one made for about 350-400 retail. Take your pick.
Recently, I put a single Diamond Audio M610D2 in a Hooker Audio Camaro pocket box, with a JBL BP 300.1 (I think, it was the customer's amp) running at 1 ohm (yeah I know, not supposed to) and it metered at 137.1 db with an Audiocontrol mic, on the dash. If this isn't enough bass for most of you, then you gotta look into something in the T-top well.
Recently, I put a single Diamond Audio M610D2 in a Hooker Audio Camaro pocket box, with a JBL BP 300.1 (I think, it was the customer's amp) running at 1 ohm (yeah I know, not supposed to) and it metered at 137.1 db with an Audiocontrol mic, on the dash. If this isn't enough bass for most of you, then you gotta look into something in the T-top well.
Im not a fan of Audiocontrols EPIC for DB measurement. We compared one in our shop to using Audiocontrols Spectrum Analyzer and placed the mic near the EPIC system and find it to be anywhere from 1.5 to 4 DBs off. After a call to Audiocontrol they said that was within spec and to not worry. Cant compare a $150 DB meter to a $1200 one. Big SPL numbers can be decieving. I made a 8" Kicker L7 hit 146.6 dbs in my camaro using a box that took me an hour to make but it sound like ***. The box you use is very important in determining output and sound quality. Id put JLs fiberglass box against any MDF box using a similar 10" sub and I guarantee the JL would kick its ***.
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I have a 10" MTX Thunderform, new style with 200 watt rms built in amp, just bought it a week ago for $499 before I decided to completely gut the stereo system and start all over with custom gear. Will sell it for say $350 if you are interested email me.
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Originally Posted by maddboost
If you build a fiberglass properly it will be stiffer and have less flex and be lighter than a MDF box. All in the material and the person who makes it.
Im not a fan of Audiocontrols EPIC for DB measurement. We compared one in our shop to using Audiocontrols Spectrum Analyzer and placed the mic near the EPIC system and find it to be anywhere from 1.5 to 4 DBs off. After a call to Audiocontrol they said that was within spec and to not worry. Cant compare a $150 DB meter to a $1200 one. Big SPL numbers can be decieving. I made a 8" Kicker L7 hit 146.6 dbs in my camaro using a box that took me an hour to make but it sound like ***. The box you use is very important in determining output and sound quality. Id put JLs fiberglass box against any MDF box using a similar 10" sub and I guarantee the JL would kick its ***.
Im not a fan of Audiocontrols EPIC for DB measurement. We compared one in our shop to using Audiocontrols Spectrum Analyzer and placed the mic near the EPIC system and find it to be anywhere from 1.5 to 4 DBs off. After a call to Audiocontrol they said that was within spec and to not worry. Cant compare a $150 DB meter to a $1200 one. Big SPL numbers can be decieving. I made a 8" Kicker L7 hit 146.6 dbs in my camaro using a box that took me an hour to make but it sound like ***. The box you use is very important in determining output and sound quality. Id put JLs fiberglass box against any MDF box using a similar 10" sub and I guarantee the JL would kick its ***.
You mention SQ, and say that 3 JL 10's in their box will kick anythings ***. That is a very vague statement. Which fiberglass box our you talking about? I have never seen a 3 10 fiberglass box from JL. All of their boxes except for the stealth boxes are MDF as far as I know.
To get the most output of a woofer, you put it in a vented enclosure. Sealed boxes typically sound better in automobiles though. I am a dealer for Diamond, JL, Rockford, Eclipse, Memphis, and Clarion. I have used a 10w3 in the same little pocket box as I used the M6 (diamond) and the M6 sounds better and has better power handling (hence the reason it can get louder.) The W3 is much more efficient, and with only a couple hundred watts, it will out perform the M6. The M6 is much less efficient, but with about 1k watts it sounds great and still has the ability to get loud. The extra power gives the sub pleanty juice when needed which makes it very dynamic.
BTW, an L7 will always sound like ***, no matter what you do to it. That woofer was NEVER designed to sound good (ask anyone at Kicker, they will agree it was built for SPL). The L7 has very little suspension and is square which is just begging for a distorted sound. (Ever wonder why all high end speakers are round?) The woofer is very noisy as well. That woofer was designed for the Bronco because they were wasting so much space between woofers, this makes a 12" woofer 144 square inches of cone area as apposed to 113.1 square inches.
