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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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i have one of those things that test for power in on fuses. well im testing some of the fuses on the drivers side and on some fuses the light comes on and on others it doesnt. I.E. i tested the fuse for radio and it doesnt light up the light but the radio turns on anyway. Will the light not comming on mean that eventually something wrong is going to happen. I thought if the fuse wasnt getting power then the light doesnt come on... Any suggestions on why it does this. Thanks
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Are you testing the fuses with the key on or off. Sounds like off. The fuse panel has fuses that have power when the car is off and ones that dont have power until you turn the key on.try testing the same fuses with the key on to the run position. Hope this helps.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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yeah i was testing them w/ the key off, ill try it w/ the key on thanks
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I have to ask - why are you testing fuses if everything is working? Fuses don't wear out or show any other indications of problems until they blow from an overload.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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well the seat doesnt move and i dont know how i would test the breaker. I would assume if it doesnt work then i need a new breaker.
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Well, first check to see if you're getting power and ground at the switch. Under the driver's seat, between the rear mounting bolts, you'll find a two-prong connector with an orange wire and a black wire. The orange wire carries 12V at all times and the black goes to ground. Disconnect the plug and use a test light to determine if power is available. If not then it's a good bet that the breaker is the problem. If you do get power then the switch in the seat is probably the problem if the seat won't move in any direction. If it moves in some directions but not others then it's probably one of the motors.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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thanks ill try that
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Well, first check to see if you're getting power and ground at the switch. Under the driver's seat, between the rear mounting bolts, you'll find a two-prong connector with an orange wire and a black wire. The orange wire carries 12V at all times and the black goes to ground. Disconnect the plug and use a test light to determine if power is available. If not then it's a good bet that the breaker is the problem. If you do get power then the switch in the seat is probably the problem if the seat won't move in any direction. If it moves in some directions but not others then it's probably one of the motors.
well i didnt do that but let me tell you that the breakers are always hot. I got home last night @12pm got up this morning @ 11:30 to go look at them and the breaker for the seats & windows are always hot. A guy that i know who owns a Fbody salvage yard says theyre not supposed to be hot so what could be the deal?
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It's possible that you have a dead short under the seat if the wires got pinched somehow. However, speculation won't get you anywhere - your best bet is toi have a look and test a couple of things.

BTW, the seats and the rear window defrost (not the power windows) use the same breaker. Does your rear defroster work? If there is a problem like a short in that circuit it could also cause the symptoms you describe. It's easy enough to unplug the defroster connectors at the side of the hatch glass to see if that is causing the problem.
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It's possible that you have a dead short under the seat if the wires got pinched somehow. However, speculation won't get you anywhere - your best bet is toi have a look and test a couple of things.

BTW, the seats and the rear window defrost (not the power windows) use the same breaker. Does your rear defroster work? If there is a problem like a short in that circuit it could also cause the symptoms you describe. It's easy enough to unplug the defroster connectors at the side of the hatch glass to see if that is causing the problem.
Do i test that like the way you told me above? and the rear defroster doesnt work.
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You can't really test the rear defroster because it is a resistance based circuit (the resistance in the lines on the glass creates heat). But you can see if it is causing your problem by just unplugging the connectors at the side of the glass. That would eliminate the defroster from the circuit and should allow the breaker to reset and work the seats.
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
You can't really test the rear defroster because it is a resistance based circuit (the resistance in the lines on the glass creates heat). But you can see if it is causing your problem by just unplugging the connectors at the side of the glass. That would eliminate the defroster from the circuit and should allow the breaker to reset and work the seats.
i did that and now the seats work. Thanks, but is my defroster going to work now
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i did that and now the seats work. Thanks, but is my defroster going to work now
No, that probably means that there is something seriously wrong with the defroster that is causing the breaker to trip. You can try plugging the defroster back in and seeing if the seats stop working again - I expect that's what will happen.

Unless you are experienced with this type of circuit you should take it to a professional to get it fixed. Certainly your dealer can do it but often you can get an auto glass place or auto electric shop to fix it for less.
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No, that probably means that there is something seriously wrong with the defroster that is causing the breaker to trip. You can try plugging the defroster back in and seeing if the seats stop working again - I expect that's what will happen.

Unless you are experienced with this type of circuit you should take it to a professional to get it fixed. Certainly your dealer can do it but often you can get an auto glass place or auto electric shop to fix it for less.

agreed if the defroster is on and the seat stops working...take it to a professional. Becareful with that test light, give 12 volts or ground to the wrong wire and your air bag could blow. It has happened before, its best to use a volt meter.
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