Newb needs help with installing his componets
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Newb needs help with installing his componets I just bought a new set of Boston SL60's(on sale, deal of the century too )
I have a few questions about the install:
1. I want to flush mount my tweeter in the door. Where should I mount it for the best sound quality?
2. How do I drill the hole into my door panel without damaging it? I assume I'll use a drill with a one of those ~2" hole bits. Do I use one designed to cut wood?
3. Will I get better sound quality by somehow sealing off the airspace for the woofer?(like a sub in a sealed box?) How would I go about doing this?
4. Where did you mount your crossovers?
I have a few questions about the install:
1. I want to flush mount my tweeter in the door. Where should I mount it for the best sound quality?
2. How do I drill the hole into my door panel without damaging it? I assume I'll use a drill with a one of those ~2" hole bits. Do I use one designed to cut wood?
3. Will I get better sound quality by somehow sealing off the airspace for the woofer?(like a sub in a sealed box?) How would I go about doing this?
4. Where did you mount your crossovers?
you can really mount the tweeter anywhere. they will tell you that the tweet is supposed to be mounted within 6-7 inches of the midwoofer for the best imaging, but that's not always right at all.
the best way to get the best sound out of your woofer is to deaden the door panels behind the woofer with sound deadening. that will keep the bass from escaping. but, are you running these off of the monsoon? if so, there is no hope for good midbass no matter what you do (and therefore don't waste the time on the deadening).
i'm also thinking those particular boston's don't cross over too low without serious distortion issues. if you can't get those suckers to play around 80hz, once again, no use in wasting your time and money to sound deaden, because you won't get any midbass. speakers with good midbass cost good money. and speakers with good midbass powered by a monsoon amplifier aren't worth anything whatsoever. might as well stay stock.
the best way to get the best sound out of your woofer is to deaden the door panels behind the woofer with sound deadening. that will keep the bass from escaping. but, are you running these off of the monsoon? if so, there is no hope for good midbass no matter what you do (and therefore don't waste the time on the deadening).
i'm also thinking those particular boston's don't cross over too low without serious distortion issues. if you can't get those suckers to play around 80hz, once again, no use in wasting your time and money to sound deaden, because you won't get any midbass. speakers with good midbass cost good money. and speakers with good midbass powered by a monsoon amplifier aren't worth anything whatsoever. might as well stay stock.
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I'm using a JL Audio 300/4 amp. I also have an Eclipse 12" sub in the system, so my bass should be sitting pretty. When you mean soundproof the door, should I just stick the soundproofing directly onto the inside door skin? I thought the Boston SL 60's had great midbass, and were a heck of a lot nicer than the JL componets at the same price. I can't afford to drop $1000 for a set of componets to achieve the ultimate in sound quality.
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I just bought a new set of Boston SL60's(on sale, deal of the century too )
I have a few questions about the install:
1. I want to flush mount my tweeter in the door. Where should I mount it for the best sound quality?
Imaging is how you perceive the music. Mount it where you think it sounds the best. Ultimately you want to mount them so that when you close your eyes, you cannot tell where they are mounted.
2. How do I drill the hole into my door panel without damaging it? I assume I'll use a drill with a one of those ~2" hole bits. Do I use one designed to cut wood?
I assume you mean for the tweeter? This can be tricky. I always use a hot knife for all plastic/dash material and a drimmel for metal (such as doors)
3. Will I get better sound quality by somehow sealing off the airspace for the woofer?(like a sub in a sealed box?) How would I go about doing this?
You always want to seperate the front and rear waves from each other. Other wise they cancel each other out. Most of your midbass/midrange speakers are free air designs meaning they are made to just seperate the waves. Putting a free air speaker in an enclosed box will sound like A$$
4. Where did you mount your crossovers?
Crossovers can be mounted anywhere its easiest for you. Most common places I mount them are kick pannels and in the doors(mount high due to water)
Hope this helps. Good luck on the install
I have a few questions about the install:
1. I want to flush mount my tweeter in the door. Where should I mount it for the best sound quality?
Imaging is how you perceive the music. Mount it where you think it sounds the best. Ultimately you want to mount them so that when you close your eyes, you cannot tell where they are mounted.
2. How do I drill the hole into my door panel without damaging it? I assume I'll use a drill with a one of those ~2" hole bits. Do I use one designed to cut wood?
I assume you mean for the tweeter? This can be tricky. I always use a hot knife for all plastic/dash material and a drimmel for metal (such as doors)
3. Will I get better sound quality by somehow sealing off the airspace for the woofer?(like a sub in a sealed box?) How would I go about doing this?
You always want to seperate the front and rear waves from each other. Other wise they cancel each other out. Most of your midbass/midrange speakers are free air designs meaning they are made to just seperate the waves. Putting a free air speaker in an enclosed box will sound like A$$
4. Where did you mount your crossovers?
Crossovers can be mounted anywhere its easiest for you. Most common places I mount them are kick pannels and in the doors(mount high due to water)
Hope this helps. Good luck on the install
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I might try mounting them in the carpet part. Just cut the carpet with a utility knife, then drill away. No more worrying about boogering up plastic. And if I ever want to get rid of the tweeter, all I'll have to do is put a new piece of carpet back on there.
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I might try mounting them in the carpet part
I also have an Eclipse 12" sub in the system, so my bass should be sitting pretty
I can't afford to drop $1000 for a set of componets to achieve the ultimate in sound quality
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Originally Posted by tuffluck
don't do that...you can take your kick panel out and there is plenty of space in there to put them. or you can always run them all the way back near your amps if you want. it's really up to you, but probably not worth destroying factory carpet for.
bass and midbass are different. bass is from 0-80Hz, midbass is from 80-120Hz. components should play from 80Hz up, not the sub. a lot of people can't afford nice components though, or don't know that this is how a system should be set up, and therefore rig it differently with the sub crossover over much higher (up in the 180 range even, yikes!).
you can get some excellent component speakers for under $400.
bass and midbass are different. bass is from 0-80Hz, midbass is from 80-120Hz. components should play from 80Hz up, not the sub. a lot of people can't afford nice components though, or don't know that this is how a system should be set up, and therefore rig it differently with the sub crossover over much higher (up in the 180 range even, yikes!).
you can get some excellent component speakers for under $400.
Good answers man. He's right about components for under $400. Here is a great set that has excellent Mid-bass (Drums, Kicks, Basically the Tight impact feeling in Sound is Mid-bass)
http://www.adireaudio.com/
Select Mobile and the Koda Components. You could alos get a set of 6 1/2" mid bass' and mount them in the Sail Panels.
For cutting out the Space, You can use a boring bit.
The only reason for people saying 7" is for Phasing considerations. Every 1" from the center of the driver is a 180 degree flip in phase. The ultimate is in the Center of the Driver (Memphis, MB Quarts, Fulton all did/do this) Also the farther away you mount the tweeter from the Mid-range the more Stereo Separtion you have to contend with. This causes the Image to pull itself in wierd directions.
Basically for an easy install mount them close to the Mid-range where your body doesn't block them, and cross-aim them. (basically aim them about halfway along the trim piece above the window.)
For the cross-overs, Are you trying to show them off??? If not, just install them inside the door, Zip-ty them in place and wire them up. Keep them away from the window tracks and check it before mounting it.
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Sorry to cause confusion. I didn't define "it" Of course I'm going to mount the crossovers inside the door somewhere. I meant mounting the tweeter in the carpet part of the door panel.
So here is the plan:
Mount tweeter in carpet part of door panel as close to the midbass 6.5" as possible.
So here is the plan:
Mount tweeter in carpet part of door panel as close to the midbass 6.5" as possible.