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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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hey guys, let me just say I honestly dont know that much about this stuff so i was hopeing you could point me in the right direction. I have an 01 trans am with the monsoon system. my cd player died so i looked around and bought a jvc kd-ar5500. now i need to do something with these speakers. i wanted to replace the monsoons and go with a 10" sub in a stealthbox. i also wanted to buy most of it from circuit city becuase I work there and get an incredible discount but their selection is pretty bad. (circuitcity.com) i was thinken about an infinity reference component set for the front and infinty reference 6.5 (INI 6012I ) for the sail panel but dont know what to do about the hatch speakers. any ideas how i can set this up? what kind of amp would I use? also if i wanted that one sub i would need a mono amp right? any suggestions on what to go with from circuit city, how to wire it? i really appreciate the help cuse i feel like im in over my head lol thanks again
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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You can use the radio unit you just bought and you can still use the monsoon amp to run all six speakers.
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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doesnt the monsoon amp only supply 2ohms of power? these speakers are 4 ohms, wont it sound bad? Im not looking to save alot of money but i dont need anything too incredible
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Old Dec 25, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/wiring-stereo-electronics/427083-pics-new-sound-system-new-brand-sub.html

Here's a quick thread with what I did.

Go for the infinity references if you can get em' cheap, they'll work fine. Honestly I'd point you to the search button but the search is currently borked

I'd HIGHLY recommend a 5-channel amp.. less mess, and there really isn't any place to put these things, so having one unit makes it helpful. You can use your monsoon speakers, check the 'Sticky' at the top of the page on info how to do this, but since you get mad discounts, just do everything, amp, speakers, sub, etc.. it'll sound incredible. I don't regret for 1 second the cash I spent.

I got a dual voice coil sub, and ran it positive to positive, neg to neg, to 1 channel, which runs a 4 ohm sub @ 2 ohms, and it slams.

See if you can get a decent 5-channel amp, 4 guage wire kit, 10" sub of your choice really, that'd be something to look through the threads on, and those infinity references or the Polk silk tweet coaxials you sell also.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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I think you are on the right track, ditch the subs in the sail panels, and go with the coaxials in there. Put the components up front, and ditch the rear hatch speakers. You can either get a 5 channel amp, one for sub, four for the door and sail panel speakers, or run two amps, a four channel for the doors and sails, and a mono amp for the sub. I don't know what they sell at C.C. but you should be able to put something decent together.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jpr884
doesnt the monsoon amp only supply 2ohms of power? these speakers are 4 ohms, wont it sound bad? Im not looking to save alot of money but i dont need anything too incredible
The speaker determines the load, not the Amp. A good 4ohm speaker is better than a mediocre 2ohm speaker any day. Just remember, if your going to keep the monsoon amp, you're only going to get midbass out of the sail panels.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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He’s right.
The voice coil of the speaker in combination of how its wired determines the resistance that the amp will see.
The ohms rating has nothing to do with the quality of the sub.

Originally Posted by jpr884
doesnt the monsoon amp only supply 2ohms of power? these speakers are 4 ohms, wont it sound bad? Im not looking to save alot of money but i dont need anything too incredible
It wont sound bad. It will just resist more electrons meaning you wont get as much power to the speaker. Basically it just wont be as loud.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick
He’s right.
It wont sound bad. It will just resist more electrons meaning you wont get as much power to the speaker. Basically it just wont be as loud.
Not necessarily true. The efficiency (sensitivity) of the speaker is what determines how loud it will sound at a given input. While a 2 ohm speaker will draw twice the current at a given volume setting (thus twice the power), that does not mean it will be any louder than (or even as loud as) an efficient 4 ohm speaker.

Be careful when comparing Sensitivity specs between speakers. I've noticed that different manufacturers use different standards. All are given in dB which is a measure of sound pressure. And are usually measured at 1 meter in front of the speaker. The difference is the input to the speaker. Most common Sensitivity stats are measure with an input of 1 Watt(rms) of power. This would be an input of 2 volts across a 4 ohm speaker (1.414V for 2 ohm). The other common yard-stick used is a speaker input of 2.83V (2W across a 4 ohm, or 4W across a 2 ohm load).
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