Honda Hunter

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Good question. I guess you have to do that in conjuction with the fog light mod.

WhiteBird00

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That's correct. The Painless harness is only for keeping the lowbeams on when you turn on the highbeams. Having the fog lights on as well requires the additional mod.

Of course, the harness is unnecessary on Firebirds because they have all four headlights on with the highbeams from the factory.

Honda Hunter

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Thanks for the good info

WhiteBird00

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The stock fog light bulbs are #880 (#881 for Camaro) which are 27 watt/43 candlepower. You can replace the bulbs with #893 (#894 for Camaro) which are 37 watt/75 candlepower (almost twice as bright). These bulbs will work without causing too much heat or too much draw on the electrical system. In fact, the exact same fog lights came from the factory on the Pontiac Bonneville with #893 bulbs in them.

You could try putting in #885 (#886 for Camaro) which are 50 watt/100 candlepower bulbs but these have been known to cause enough heat to melt the plastic sockets and warp the lenses.

The only difference between the Firebird bulbs and the Camaro bulbs is that the Firebird uses straight in connectors while the Camaro uses right angle connectors.

ChicagoTransAm

Is this a safe way of doing it? Saw the other write up. But seems like he's making a simple project more difficult than need be. Anyone running it like this?

Honda Hunter

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For some reason mine have always used all 4 when the HB's are on.

ChicagoTransAm

If you have an LT1 based F-Body or a Trans Am...that's the way they are. This is for my buddies 99 camaro

Honda Hunter

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Gotcha.

BIG BAD BLACKSS

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Yeah this is for my 99 SS, im just worried about the wiring harness running all 4 headlights at once. My low beams are HIDs which i hear only use something like 35 watts after they are fired up initially to keep going??? Just wanna make sure i dont blow any fusable links or melt any wires or anything! Also i wanna run my fog lights while the other 4 are on, is that then hgonna be too much or is that a seperate harness? My car has the "katz" brand foglights added on also(dont know wattage but they are pretty darn bright).

I can honestly see pretty wellw ith the aftermarket foglights and the HIDs, but theres times where all the light you can get will help!

Honda Hunter

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Not sure if that's legal but it looks good.

ChicagoTransAm

You don't need to worry about the wattage toasting your wiring ... The foglights are on a seperate harness...

WhiteBird00

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Yes, connecting the yellow and tan wire under the dash will work. Basically what you are doing is bypassing the lowbeam side of the highbeam switch. Normally the Camaro highbeam switch toggles the power input on the yellow wire between the tan lowbeam wire and the light green highbeam wire. Connecting the yellow and tan wires together leaves the lowbeams on whenever the headlights are on - regardless of whether the highbeams are on or not.

This should be safe because it is essentially the same way the Firebirds are wired. The only concern would be running power for all four lights through the yellow wire but the wire is the same gauge as on Firebirds so it should be fine.

tbonesln

my low beam stay on when i put the high beam on but my fogs lights dont

WhiteBird00

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You revived a four year old thread to tell us that?

The factory configuration in Firebirds keeps the low beams on when the high beams are in use. Camaros are wired differently and turn off the low beams when the high beams are selected. Both models turn off the fog lights when the high beams are on.

Wicked_C5

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This is easy but non-legal mod

WhiteBird00

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There is absolutely nothing illegal about having all four headlights on when using the high beams. In fact, Firebirds come from the factory with that configuration.

02Z28LS1

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exactly.....the only time it would be illegal (in most cases) is if you also did the mod to turn on the fogs along with the lows+highs. but even then, you probably will not get hassled too much if you just be a courteous driver in the first place, and be sure to turn off the high beams when you see someone coming. if you do this from far enough away, they will never be able to tell you had more than 4 lights on, they'll just think you had REALLY bright high beams....and it should make it easier for them to see you switch from highs to lows, also, which generally elicits the same response from them.