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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Is it possible to connect this to the Trans Am -99, factory alarm system?



I have got this unit:

RADAR INTRUSION DETECTOR
"This model emits a high-frequency energy field that immediately detects intrusions. Ideal for open cars, boats, etc."


http://www.velleman.be/ot/en/product/view/?id=2827

http://www.electronicsnmore.com/prod...oducts_id/1206


Perfect when leaving the car for a while with the t-tops off.






Here is how is should be connected according to the manual:

The best moutning is beween the driver and the passenger seats,
or in the centre of rear seat area.

RED WIRE
Connect the red wire to a constant +12VDC power source.

BLACK WIRE
Connect the black wire to the good chassis ground.

BLUE WIRE
The blue wire will provide a negative output when the sensor has been trigged.
Connect the blue wire to the alarm's negative input.
If more then one senor is installed, each senor's negative output (Blue Wire) must be isolated with a 1N4001 diode.



So, the blue wire, is it possible to connect this somewhere to the factory alarm?
Negative output....
Maybe to the shake-sensor (located over the the right backwheel)
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Usually these sensors have two output wires - one for "warn away" and one for "full alarm". In your case there is only the one for full alarm. Mount the sensor as close to the center of the car as possible. Under the console on top of the airbag module is usually a good place. Connect your blue wire to the light green wire in the bottom row of the blue 32-pin connector at the BCM (bottom row when viewed with the connector locking tab on top). The light green wire is between an orange with black wire and a black wire. This is the full alarm signal wire from the factory shock sensor.

If you want to upgrade to a dual-zone proximity sensor, the DEI 508D is about $45. DEI is the company that makes Viper alarm systems.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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Thank you!



Is there also a wire for "Warn away" on the BCM, which wire?


The unit needs +12 and ground, is there any wire that I can connect it to so it´s only ON when i have the alarm activated?
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what does that thing do, it says it emits field around the car

does that mean if someone gets close the alarm goes off?
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ttt..
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Originally Posted by DLS
Thank you!



Is there also a wire for "Warn away" on the BCM, which wire?


The unit needs +12 and ground, is there any wire that I can connect it to so it´s only ON when i have the alarm activated?
The "warn away" signal from the factory shock sensor is on the light blue wire near the opposite end of the bottom row of the blue connector at the BCM. It is between a white and a black with white wire. When grounded it makes the BCM honk the horn twice and flash the lights.

There is no "alarm active" signal wire on the factory alarm like there is on most aftermarket alarms. So no, you can't really hook up the sensor to only have power when the alarm is active. However, it draws so little power that you don't need to worry about using a battery feed unless you leave the car for weeks at a time. Also, even though it's always powered, it won't actually do anything unless the alarm is on.
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Originally Posted by jwhert
what does that thing do, it says it emits field around the car

does that mean if someone gets close the alarm goes off?
It's somewhat like the automatic door openers at grocery stores. It emits a high frequency field of energy (not sure if it's in the radar band or just ultrasonic) that can detect movement within the field. When it detects movement it provides a ground signal to the alarm system to set off the alarm.

The size of the field is adjustable. I have a dual-zone perimiter sensor that is adjusted so that the inner zone is entirely within the car's interior and the outer zone extends about 6 inches outside the car. The outer zone provides a warn away chirp of the alarm if someone brushes up against the car. The inner zone provides full alarm activation if someone reaches inside (say, when the t-tops are off).

A single zone sensor should be set with the zone entirely inside the car so that you don't get a lot of false alarms from people walking by in a parking lot.
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Thank you WhiteBird00 for the answers.



And for jwhert

From the manual:
This sensor detects mass movment within the RF-protection area and responses to large objects such as human arm or leg.
This sensor is not disturbed by heat expansion, wind or falling leaves.
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
It's somewhat like the automatic door openers at grocery stores. It emits a high frequency field of energy (not sure if it's in the radar band or just ultrasonic) that can detect movement within the field. When it detects movement it provides a ground signal to the alarm system to set off the alarm.

The size of the field is adjustable. I have a dual-zone perimiter sensor that is adjusted so that the inner zone is entirely within the car's interior and the outer zone extends about 6 inches outside the car. The outer zone provides a warn away chirp of the alarm if someone brushes up against the car. The inner zone provides full alarm activation if someone reaches inside (say, when the t-tops are off).

A single zone sensor should be set with the zone entirely inside the car so that you don't get a lot of false alarms from people walking by in a parking lot.
Those sensors on store doors are microwave sensors, as are the sensors used in parts of burglar alarms for home and car. Microwave detectors emit microwave energy, then sample the returned energy after the emitted field bounces back to the detector several times a second. If the detector senses a change in the recieved energy (Doppler shift caused by an object moving through the field) it trips a circuit (Normally open, or normally closed) to send to the door motors or burglar alarm. There are also infared detectors used for door openers, but I don't think that they are used for car alarms though, as they are not sensitive enough.
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thanks guys, i need one of these now
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Those sensors on store doors are microwave sensors, as are the sensors used in parts of burglar alarms for home and car. Microwave detectors emit microwave energy, then sample the returned energy after the emitted field bounces back to the detector several times a second. If the detector senses a change in the recieved energy (Doppler shift caused by an object moving through the field) it trips a circuit (Normally open, or normally closed) to send to the door motors or burglar alarm. There are also infared detectors used for door openers, but I don't think that they are used for car alarms though, as they are not sensitive enough.
Yes, but are they far enough into the microwave band to be radar? My radar detector shows X band on most older door openers and K band on several of the newer ones.
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