98 TA Vert
98 TA Vert I have a late model 98 June of 99 to be exact and susposedly it doesnt have the monsoon system however I do have a seperate tweeter in the front door which i was told ment i do have the monsoon,
I have upgraded the HU with an alpine HU and was trying to put the speakers in but am unsure of the monsoon non monsoon issues. Anyone who definatly knows whats up your help would be appreciated
Thanks
I have upgraded the HU with an alpine HU and was trying to put the speakers in but am unsure of the monsoon non monsoon issues. Anyone who definatly knows whats up your help would be appreciated
Thanks
It's probably still a monsoon but verts are setup different than coupes. Look in front of your spare for the amp and be done with wondering.
In verts the amp runs all 8 channels (four locations, woofer / tweeter) channels. So if you dont plan on adding an amp you'll need to bi-wire the speakers just like coupe guys have to. An aftermarket deck with aftermarket speakers still using the monsoon amp can sound pretty good. You'll be happy.
You'll also need spacers for the back speakers or the top will come down and hit the magnet. And be careful of what screws you use in the back... they point through to an area where the top folds up, too long and that's bad news also.
If you have a way to do so, limiting the bass to the rear speakers is a good idea, either through your h/u controls or a set of bass blocker caps. All your bass is from the doors in a vert. The back speakers have no real enclosure and don't like bass. The stock speakers are made like this, but aftermarkets will try to produce bass - and with no enclosure they'll pop/distort early.
If by some odd chance it really isn't a monsoon, then you'll just have a normal two wire install with your head unit powering the new speakers. I highly doubt that is possible though. I think only base Camaro verts were equipped in this way.
In verts the amp runs all 8 channels (four locations, woofer / tweeter) channels. So if you dont plan on adding an amp you'll need to bi-wire the speakers just like coupe guys have to. An aftermarket deck with aftermarket speakers still using the monsoon amp can sound pretty good. You'll be happy.
You'll also need spacers for the back speakers or the top will come down and hit the magnet. And be careful of what screws you use in the back... they point through to an area where the top folds up, too long and that's bad news also.
If you have a way to do so, limiting the bass to the rear speakers is a good idea, either through your h/u controls or a set of bass blocker caps. All your bass is from the doors in a vert. The back speakers have no real enclosure and don't like bass. The stock speakers are made like this, but aftermarkets will try to produce bass - and with no enclosure they'll pop/distort early.
If by some odd chance it really isn't a monsoon, then you'll just have a normal two wire install with your head unit powering the new speakers. I highly doubt that is possible though. I think only base Camaro verts were equipped in this way.
Originally Posted by Topless TA
I have a late model 98 June of 99 to be exact and susposedly it doesnt have the monsoon system however I do have a seperate tweeter in the front door which i was told ment i do have the monsoon,
I have upgraded the HU with an alpine HU and was trying to put the speakers in but am unsure of the monsoon non monsoon issues. Anyone who definatly knows whats up your help would be appreciated
Thanks
I have upgraded the HU with an alpine HU and was trying to put the speakers in but am unsure of the monsoon non monsoon issues. Anyone who definatly knows whats up your help would be appreciated
Thanks
If you meant June of '98, then you do have a '98, and you would not have the Monsoon (Monsoon was not available in ANY 'verts untill '99).
Check the link in my sig for a solution to your bass issues in the 'vert.
Originally Posted by JohnnyBs98WS6Rag
If your car was built in June of '99, then you have a '99 model year car, not a '98, in which case you'd have the Monsoon system. The '98s finished production in July of '98, and by Aug '98, the '99s were in production.
If you meant June of '98, then you do have a '98, and you would not have the Monsoon (Monsoon was not available in ANY 'verts untill '99).
Check the link in my sig for a solution to your bass issues in the 'vert.
If you meant June of '98, then you do have a '98, and you would not have the Monsoon (Monsoon was not available in ANY 'verts untill '99).
Check the link in my sig for a solution to your bass issues in the 'vert.
already have the plans from you still in the shipping tube in the closet.
Originally Posted by Topless TA
yes a typo JUNE OF 1998 one of 339 WS6 TA verts.
already have the plans from you still in the shipping tube in the closet.
already have the plans from you still in the shipping tube in the closet.
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Originally Posted by todddchi
In verts the amp runs all 8 channels (four locations, woofer / tweeter) channels.
I have a 99 WS6 vert that I replaced the Monsoon system in with aftermarket all the way around. The deck DOES power the tweets in the door. The amp ONLY powers the woofers in the door and the full spectrum in the rear. There is actually another molex connector for the tweets on the back of the head unit that is totally apart from the connectors for the power and amp. Case in point: the guy I sold the deck to was able to instal it in his coupe to replace his failing unit. All connections were exactly the same.
However, I know they made different Monsoon head units for different LS1 cars during different LS1 years.
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It's possible your TA is different than my Camaro with respect to how the amp works, but I think it is unlikely. I'm fairly certain all of the convertible monsoon systems (camaro/firebird) are the same, with a base, non amplified system being available in base Camaros only.
Coupes complicate things as there are base systems, as well as distinctions between the Camaro and Firebird Monsoon systems.
What I do know is that all the connections are exactly the same at the head unit, because even in a coupe vehicle the same 4 head unit channels are also providing the high-level inputs to the amplifier while also driving the tweeters. There are only 4 high level outputs on any monsoon deck.
How those signals are split up and what the amp drives afterwards varies, but that's why the decks are interchangeable.
It's also why Monsoons still sound kind of shitty even with new speakers. The head unit puts out a lot of distortion at high volumes. The monsoon amp can actually sound pretty good paired to a clean head unit output and good speakers.
I had mine setup like that as an interim step, and the head unit and speakers were much weaker than the amp. The amp was providing at least a good 30 watts RMS with decent headroom, it wasn't bad. It was MUCH better than my built-in Kenwood deck's amp, which is supposedly 25x4 rms and 50x4 peak.
Coupes complicate things as there are base systems, as well as distinctions between the Camaro and Firebird Monsoon systems.
What I do know is that all the connections are exactly the same at the head unit, because even in a coupe vehicle the same 4 head unit channels are also providing the high-level inputs to the amplifier while also driving the tweeters. There are only 4 high level outputs on any monsoon deck.
How those signals are split up and what the amp drives afterwards varies, but that's why the decks are interchangeable.
It's also why Monsoons still sound kind of shitty even with new speakers. The head unit puts out a lot of distortion at high volumes. The monsoon amp can actually sound pretty good paired to a clean head unit output and good speakers.
I had mine setup like that as an interim step, and the head unit and speakers were much weaker than the amp. The amp was providing at least a good 30 watts RMS with decent headroom, it wasn't bad. It was MUCH better than my built-in Kenwood deck's amp, which is supposedly 25x4 rms and 50x4 peak.
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