Head Unit for convertible suggestions
One issue is I think the Sony becomes shrill at high volumes and it has no loudness function, so at low volumes the bass just falls away.
I really like the JVC -DVD MP3 unit because I can ditch my changer and even play video on the face plate. But really I am looking for suggestions for a new head unit suited to a convertibles difficult conditions.
While moving, the wind noise when going fast drowns out the bass much more than higher frequencies. My head unit has no loudness function so as I raise the volume it is not altering the bass components like other head units would. So at high speeds if I have enough bass and I slow down and turn down the volume I lose the bass and found I really needed to set up a 3rd equalizer setting.
No single setting covers all conditions.
My kenwood deck has three pairs of RCA outs, one for subs. So I have a huge bass adjustment range through the sub level controls. Top up is like setting 5-6, top down is 11-13 (out of 0-15).
Works fine.
My kenwood deck has three pairs of RCA outs, one for subs. So I have a huge bass adjustment range through the sub level controls. Top up is like setting 5-6, top down is 11-13 (out of 0-15).
Works fine.
Also, it sounds like you are powering your speakers off the head unit? That just won't cut it in a vert. Stock speakers or head unit power, both big no-no's.
I have a JB slim box (shelf mounted, ported low on the shelf firing forward), 4 stage 1 RF 8" subs, wired to 1 ohm to get 400rms from my memphis amp. I made a lot of mistakes in the setup but I'm not willing to spend money again right now to fix it. It does sound good but it is not at all optimized as a setup, very inefficient and I don't like that aspect.
My mistakes:
1.) Expecting bass levels like a coupe. I figured 4x 8" would be enough to get me up to the levels of a decent 10" stealthbox installation (which is what I had in my previous coupe). I also wanted to keep the trunk, I really need it. It's fine with the top up of course, but the acoustic wall the top forms just kills it top down. So from the get go I had unrealistic expectations.
2.) Using 4 subs. The box can't be big enough, at least with common 8" subs. There may be some that can work in such a small space but the RF stage 1's were a terrible, terrible choice.
3.) Using the wrong 4 subs. Not only wrt to the enclosure, but the RF1's have terrible sensitivity, 83db I think when there are drivers out there at 90db. Very poor choice as power is limited and volume is critical in a vert. At least they were cheap.
4.) Not enough power. This one was a self-imposed hurdle. ~400 watts rms is about what I figured the stock charging system could support without flickering lights, keeping decent key-off play time, and not requiring any electrical upgrades.
- This setup would be fine if I had better driver selection and a 1,000 watt class D section. With that it would meet my goals, I am sure. But that is also a lot of money and I'd be into charging upgrades.
What I've learned:
1.) With the same box arrangement, I would have been better off feeding 2 proper 8" subs the 400 watts, and tuning the enclosure properly. High sensitivity infinities or some other choice of the 100's out there.
2.) Taking the shelf box approach was a bad idea because of how I use the car. My car is a 2nd vehicle. If I'm driving it, 95% of the time the top is down. So adding a shelf or trunk solution was not the right direction for me to take. I should have jumped right to a backseat or other cabin based solution.
3.) If I could start all over, I would have put the money into either glassing 8" subs into the kick panel area (mine's an auto so I could do it), or beefing the hell out of the doors to house a 8" or solid 6.5" and driving the hell out of them. The money I put into the box, 4 subs, and 5 channel amp would have definitely funded this endeavor. Some fabrication costs, beefy front door drivers, and a higher power 4 channel amp.
I could be a lot worse off, the subs were cheap and the amp was ebay. But with the box I have about $450 in the box/drivers/amp/wiring, and I could have used that money a lot more intelligently. On the same note the amp new would have ran in that range, so it makes me feel a little better.
Right now I have 6.75" 2ohm infinities in the doors which are dynamatted up, and alpines in the back. Top down the infinities are doing as much bass work as the subs are, which is ridiculous. You can FEEL the subs, but the sound you hear is being produced near equal between the two.
Last edited by todddchi; Sep 1, 2006 at 01:10 AM.



