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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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OK, so heres my problem, i installed two pioneer 800- watt peak amps and 2-12" kicker cvr's. I ran it all with 4- gauge wire directly to the battery. Whenever i crank up my system my battery gauge goes from 13 to the red dots with every hit of the bass. Although it shoots right back up to 13 after the bass shuts off. I wasn't sure if i need a new alternator or battery or whatever, but ive seen cars with stock alternators and batteries pushing much bigger systems than mine and thats why i was wondering. Ive had this installed for about a month and everything still works fine, even though it is really annoying at nite when my lights almost shut completly off with every hit of the bass. Jus lookin for some input and wonderin if anybody else has the same problem cuz i didnt think my system should have had such a hard effect on the vehicles electrical system.

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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:40 PM
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Does it make a difference what guage wire you get?

I have a p2 10" and 600 watt amp coming in, ill only run it a little less than halfway though.. hopefully i wont have this problem
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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id have both the battery and alternator checked it shouldnt be dimming that much, but with that said where did you tap in for your amps power directly at the battery, or at that auxilary battery terminal

if at the auxilary battery terminal this could be half your problem
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Old May 9, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Those amps are probably drawing 80-100 amps of current... I'd say its possible for it to draw enough power to put your battery voltage in the red.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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to help answer all u will need is a cap


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Old May 9, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Shouldn't the car be running > 14 volts?

I'd definitely get the alternator and battery checked.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Mine never goes into the red and I have a decent sized system. I also have never had the need for a cap either. I would say that as long as everything is charging correctly and good wire was used for the power AND grounds, you shouldn't have any problems. People often overlook the importance of good grounds. I don't even run an Optima battery or anything...just a Bosch that came with the car when I bought it!!

To answer your question woswill the gauge wire you use makes a big difference in how much power your amp can draw. The further from the battery your amp is the thicker gauge wire you want to use. Same as if you were doing a battery relocation to some extent.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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What'd you do, get class AB amps or something?
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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yea it runs at 14.1 er sumthin, i jus said 13 cuz its the number on the gauge. I boutght an optima red top today, so ill see if that helps anything. Im plannin on getting a ho alternator either way. I was jus wondering if it was normal for my system to be taking that much power from the car. Thanks for the replies guys.

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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:54 PM
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i already have a 5 farad cap that i put in a week ago and it did make a difference but not as much of one as i would have liked. I think a ho alternator will solve all of my problems so im jus gonna get that.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 05:55 PM
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idk if you saw my first post but is ur power wire connected to battery or aux power terminal

on my buddies 97 TA i put in a jblbp1200.1 and a 4 channel monoblock is 1200rms and the 4 channel is 65x4 lights dim a bit at full tilt but nothing as bad as ur describing
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Old May 9, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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Yeah I would definitely double-check your wiring. Also check your gains. Your 800 watt peak amps are probably rated at like 300-400watts RMS (RMS the important number - peak is just a marketing tool and worthless to measure performance by). You really shouldn't be having the problems you say you are having. Make sure your amp gains aren't turned up too high and that the load on the amp is correct.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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what do u mean auxillary battery terminal. I just have it directly connected to the side post of my battery.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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mine was dpoing the same i have an alpine Mrd-m1000 pushing a premier TS-W3002SPL and my infinity 7540a with the stock batt it would go to red it really dosnt drain to like 5 volts i was watching my volts on my amp and it was dropping to 10.3 but the needle was on red i replaced it with an orbital and even with the stocl alt it never goes past half and on the volts it dosnt drop below 12.3 hitin keeping on the gas like on the freeway it runs at13.9 it will adventally kill that stock batt
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Old May 9, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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Upgrade your "big 3" too. I recommend 2ga or larger (1/0 or simply 0 ga is common these days). And ditch the capacitor once you get the alternator in. It'll just be an unnecessary load. Sell it on Ebay or something.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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I know all my wiring is right. I used 4 gauge for power and ground. Im running the subs at 2 Ohms. Each amp has 360W @ 2 ohms and can handle 2 ohms fine. I dontn know whats wrong with my electical system. If anyone else has had or has this problem. please help me out.. thanks
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Old May 10, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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red top suck get a orbital lol
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