Camaro install pics
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The sub works in sealed or ported but dragonrage who apparently is the know all claims different yet I know tons of ppl runnign them sealed and love em. He plan on bolting it down somehow, he goes to a lot of car shows and wanted a show off type stereo install. The car basically sits in a garage most of its life so its not necessarily parked outside all day long. It deff screams steal me though I do agree
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Once again, lots of people run Bose Lifestyle systems in their homes and love them. Those people are called ignorant.
13Ov.2 is a lot better for our cars, but it's best at a bit over 1cuft per sub sealed. But it could work in a stealthbox with polyfill, wouldn't make the FR notably worse.
pentavolvo, I really recommend you try a program called WinISD. I certainly don't know everything, but I can model up a speaker in a given box and your SQ10s model such that they only go down to about 80Hz. I'm telling you this so you can improve your system.
But hey, we all know that the people that know nothing are the people that won't take any advice, right?
13Ov.2 is a lot better for our cars, but it's best at a bit over 1cuft per sub sealed. But it could work in a stealthbox with polyfill, wouldn't make the FR notably worse.
pentavolvo, I really recommend you try a program called WinISD. I certainly don't know everything, but I can model up a speaker in a given box and your SQ10s model such that they only go down to about 80Hz. I'm telling you this so you can improve your system.
But hey, we all know that the people that know nothing are the people that won't take any advice, right?
i have not read through this whole thread but from what i can gather, dragonrage you are an ignorant jackass. YOU dont belong in this field. pentavolvo does some of the nicest **** i have seen and prolly has 100% feedback from anyone's stereo he has touched.
All in all I still like what he did on the job. Its different and looks great. As long as the owners like it..
I remember WAY back in the early 90s when I got a bazooka tube set and some alpine HU and eq and speakers etc put in my first car...
Howthe owner of the install shop swore up and down about how awesome it was gonna sound.. I look back at it now and shudder at how bad he took me to the cleaners L
Not only in price but the loudness and clarity just werent there.
Sure it sounded wonderful on volume 12. but that was half as loud as the stock set up... and when you turned it up to try and crank it to 18-20 it was farty and all distorted and crap was clipping..
Anyways.. chuckles.. sorry to go down memory lane
I never got into learning about building boxes and all that space requirment and depth crap. But I have since always done m own installs and I think you did a cool job.
Again mad respect for ya to making these cool boxes and different set ups
BTW rage, I couldnt find the 13Ov2's on that program.. but then i didnt d/l the pro version. The eD use image dynamics drivers? or which driver do they use?
I remember WAY back in the early 90s when I got a bazooka tube set and some alpine HU and eq and speakers etc put in my first car...
Howthe owner of the install shop swore up and down about how awesome it was gonna sound.. I look back at it now and shudder at how bad he took me to the cleaners L
Not only in price but the loudness and clarity just werent there.Sure it sounded wonderful on volume 12. but that was half as loud as the stock set up... and when you turned it up to try and crank it to 18-20 it was farty and all distorted and crap was clipping..
Anyways.. chuckles.. sorry to go down memory lane
I never got into learning about building boxes and all that space requirment and depth crap. But I have since always done m own installs and I think you did a cool job. Again mad respect for ya to making these cool boxes and different set ups
BTW rage, I couldnt find the 13Ov2's on that program.. but then i didnt d/l the pro version. The eD use image dynamics drivers? or which driver do they use?
Originally Posted by dragonrage
Once again, lots of people run Bose Lifestyle systems in their homes and love them. Those people are called ignorant.
13Ov.2 is a lot better for our cars, but it's best at a bit over 1cuft per sub sealed. But it could work in a stealthbox with polyfill, wouldn't make the FR notably worse.
pentavolvo, I really recommend you try a program called WinISD. I certainly don't know everything, but I can model up a speaker in a given box and your SQ10s model such that they only go down to about 80Hz. I'm telling you this so you can improve your system.
But hey, we all know that the people that know nothing are the people that won't take any advice, right?
13Ov.2 is a lot better for our cars, but it's best at a bit over 1cuft per sub sealed. But it could work in a stealthbox with polyfill, wouldn't make the FR notably worse.
pentavolvo, I really recommend you try a program called WinISD. I certainly don't know everything, but I can model up a speaker in a given box and your SQ10s model such that they only go down to about 80Hz. I'm telling you this so you can improve your system.
But hey, we all know that the people that know nothing are the people that won't take any advice, right?
Regardless, instead of bashing why don't you post the results from WinISD, graph and box volume to prove your point. I just used the little program I have and it says the F3 is 62hz for that speaker with a .33cuft sealed box. Ported would be much better with an F3 of 41Hz and the volume would only be .55cuft. Ported would be a good choice using a 2"x10" port. This is a quick and dirty program, I'm sure the one you have is better.
One thing I have noticed though is some speakers perform quite differently when firing up or down vs forward. So that should be investigated also.
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Originally Posted by 69z-28
i have not read through this whole thread but from what i can gather, dragonrage you are an ignorant jackass. YOU dont belong in this field. pentavolvo does some of the nicest **** i have seen and prolly has 100% feedback from anyone's stereo he has touched.
You have no business in this thread.
Originally Posted by 00PewterSS
You know that if people like their Bose system they aren't ignorant, that is their preference. Some people prefer non-realistic sound reproduction.
Originally Posted by dragonrage
No, they just don't know how wrong they are.
Anyway, I was agreeing with you, sort of. Post some results from that program to stand by your conclusion.
Sorry to threadjack on the install! I'm not a fan of coaxials, but they fit nice. Components normally have a good crossover which you can't get with a coaxial.
Brian
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No, they think Bose is good because they believe the marketing. I've dealt with many such people and I was able to set at least some of them straight...
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sq10gl1.png
http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sq10gl1.png
You're putting in the parameters from their site? Cause I'm getting an F3 62Hz using the program I have, odd... wonder if mine is wrong. Try using ajdesigner.com. It is simplified, but it should work.
Brian
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Well, if that is the case then modeling them won't do any good anyway. I would hope they would publish realistic T/S so people could see what they are getting into by using their suggested box sizes. In a sealed enclosure of the size posted it should really kick at 60-80hz, but 30hz will prob barely be audible.
Oh and yes the advertizing hype with Bose is impressive. It works for them though!
Brian
Oh and yes the advertizing hype with Bose is impressive. It works for them though!
Brian
someone sure is a cocky SOB. dont be mad because everyone hates you. you must be EMO.haha.
and dont tell me what parts of LS1tech i do and dont have business in. the only threads you have business in are in the sandy vagina section.
and dont tell me what parts of LS1tech i do and dont have business in. the only threads you have business in are in the sandy vagina section.
Sandy Vagina...interesting...lol.
Rage does know quite a bit about car audio as well as Bat95, myself, and several others. Most people hear mediocre sound reproduction and are ok with it because they don't know any better. Therefore, any product that has an extensive marketing budget does well. Doesn't necessarily mean they are any good. Bose is one of those companies that has been fortunate enough to have a VERY good marketing department and a decent...not good product. It IS however, good enough for most because they wouldn't know any better anyway. Great example...TV's and picture quality. Some people walk into the show room and go wow that's awesome...I'll take it!! Your standing next to em going...huh?? You wonder if they are looking at the same thing you are. Opinions WILL vary.
Rage does know quite a bit about car audio as well as Bat95, myself, and several others. Most people hear mediocre sound reproduction and are ok with it because they don't know any better. Therefore, any product that has an extensive marketing budget does well. Doesn't necessarily mean they are any good. Bose is one of those companies that has been fortunate enough to have a VERY good marketing department and a decent...not good product. It IS however, good enough for most because they wouldn't know any better anyway. Great example...TV's and picture quality. Some people walk into the show room and go wow that's awesome...I'll take it!! Your standing next to em going...huh?? You wonder if they are looking at the same thing you are. Opinions WILL vary.
Kinda reminds me of like X-Box for some reason. Like when you first turn the X-Box on!!! Nice effect. Definetely looks killer at night. Can you turn off the lights when your not showing it off?? I'd hate to go to the grocery store or something and have some knuckle head see that, follow me home and steal my stuff later. Turn it on for car shows and stuff. Off for when your just driving around??!!
technically matt, you dont belong here either. lt1 piece of **** :p
anyway very nice install. that looks like paar from PC.com. its good to see hes still rockin the 3.8...not.
anyway very nice install. that looks like paar from PC.com. its good to see hes still rockin the 3.8...not.
