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Old 05-19-2010, 08:40 AM
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Alright, wondering if this could correct my problem with the transmissions issues I am having. I purchased the harness and such from speartech and had a segment swap, but the transmission is throwing 3 codes and is not running properly. Codes are electrical issues which, I feel is the harness not being wired correctly (had it happen with a hotwire kit I purchased before also). Thinking about trying this and sending the harness and such back.
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Can you use both the VSS and ISS sensors or should you just use the rear sensor?
It doesn't matter, if you have the ISS plugged in the PCM won't use it.
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Originally Posted by Ryan33187
Alright, wondering if this could correct my problem with the transmissions issues I am having. I purchased the harness and such from speartech and had a segment swap, but the transmission is throwing 3 codes and is not running properly. Codes are electrical issues which, I feel is the harness not being wired correctly (had it happen with a hotwire kit I purchased before also). Thinking about trying this and sending the harness and such back.
What are the codes? It is possible, but it is also possible there are other issues.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by slow67
What are the codes? It is possible, but it is also possible there are other issues.
Codes it is throwing is 0743, 0753, 0758
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Originally Posted by Ryan33187
Codes it is throwing is 0743, 0753, 0758
You could try taking the adapter harness apart and making sure all the connectors are seated properly.
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:36 PM
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What about your shift table settings? Thats got to be off some since the gearing is different or not?
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Old 08-11-2011, 03:45 PM
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If you're referring to the original post where the segment swap is not necessary... you're right. The shift schedule tables need to be modified.

I have done many 80e conversions myself and have found this to be the most reliable and easiest way to manage the transmission by far! Once I had figured out the harnesses and PCM pin locations I never looked back!

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Originally Posted by Gilbert@Ace Racing
If you're referring to the original post where the segment swap is not necessary... you're right. The shift schedule tables need to be modified.

I have done many 80e conversions myself and have found this to be the most reliable and easiest way to manage the transmission by far! Once I had figured out the harnesses and PCM pin locations I never looked back!

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Gilbert how many conversions have you done not using segment swap? Also how did you go about changing the shift schedule tables just copy paste?
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i would like to have more info on this as i have a harness with wires and pins from a truck i want to wire in myself. and i have a segmented tune along with a 4l60e tune.
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slow67, now after 2 years, do you still think 4L60 tune is better to control 4L80 tranny? or maybe you've heard of way to make TC stay locked at 0% TPS?
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Originally Posted by phasemaster1
Gilbert how many conversions have you done not using segment swap? Also how did you go about changing the shift schedule tables just copy paste?
My bad! Didn't mean to ignore you, just didn't see you questions! Don't hesitate to call me or PM me in the future if I do not respond in a timely manner. I am a busy dude, don't mind helping.. .just get busy ya know!

I have done enough to know that there is no need to do a segment swap when converting a 60e to an 80e.

Yes, as far as the shift tables are concerned I simply copied a known good configuration and moved into tuning it out from there. As you know, no two are ever the same. Very few guys have the exact combination and I prefer to road tune my transmissions for the sake of good driveablitiy. Dyno tuning is not a good procedure to use when dialing in a transmission.

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Originally Posted by Vetal
slow67, now after 2 years, do you still think 4L60 tune is better to control 4L80 tranny? or maybe you've heard of way to make TC stay locked at 0% TPS?
I am still running it on my daily driver. I know of no other method to keep the TCC locked at 0% TPS.
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I think vetal has been having tcc lockup issues lately maybe you can help him out slow like you helped me out?

Just to credit slow, he has come through in the clutch when I didn't even know he existed. He sent me some pm's and helped me stage my turbo 80e at the lights as I was having troubles pushing through getting my turbo spooled.

I wouldn't be cutting the tree down on ****'s if it weren't for him!
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Vetal, if you need help (and have hptuners for your car) PM me for further help.
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Good info
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Old 09-19-2011, 05:06 PM
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So it seems that 4L60 tune is better than 4l80 in that it actually keeps TC locked at 0%, right? Any other benefits of one or another?
What about extra ISS sensor of 4L80 - doesn't it give any advantages?
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Originally Posted by Vetal
So it seems that 4L60 tune is better than 4l80 in that it actually keeps TC locked at 0%, right? Any other benefits of one or another?
What about extra ISS sensor of 4L80 - doesn't it give any advantages?
Yes, that is a benefit (keeping the TCC locked at 0% throttle). Also don't have to wire in an ISS sensor (if you have trouble finding one).

Disadvantages: Another relay that can go out (not common, but may happen after so many years, just like a fuel pump relay, etc).
Have to delete slipping codes (unless you have EFILive).
With an ISS (and an 80E tune), the PCM will probably be better at detecting slipping clutches.
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Old 09-20-2011, 03:17 AM
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I've already wired my ISS so only thing left to wish is TC locked at 0% TPS. One guy at HPTuners forum claims his doesn't unlock when he lifts off... I'll try to find more on this
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Originally Posted by Vetal
I've already wired my ISS so only thing left to wish is TC locked at 0% TPS. One guy at HPTuners forum claims his doesn't unlock when he lifts off... I'll try to find more on this
I searched for a guy like that a couple of years ago, no luck.
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