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Old 07-02-2010, 09:36 PM
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Default dosent it seem kinda stupid? (higher stall+stock 10 bolt and tranny)

All the horror stories about the 4l60e and 10 bolt breaking so easy and lots of us just decide to throw a high stall tc+tires on the car. I dont have a high stall yet but I will soon. One thing I hear alot is "after my stall street tires are worthless!" well I have to tell ya..my street tires are worthless on my car without a higher stall! Honestly if I had sticky tires on my car as is I think the 10 bolt would have been toast! I guess ill find out soon enough how well this is gonna hold up
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I am not saying saying that a higher stall and a factory 10 bolt is a good idea.. But, as long as your driving normal you should be fine..

Now when your on the gas and you do get high into the power band and you start to hook.. thats when you start breaking things..

Hard launches from a dig on some stickier tires put an outrageous amount of stress on the rear end components.. and metal doesn't resist twisting soo good.. or the metal teeth start snapping off.
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It wouldn't be proper modding if you didn't break anything in the process of testing new **** out.
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Originally Posted by meine96ws6
I am not saying saying that a higher stall and a factory 10 bolt is a good idea.. But, as long as your driving normal you should be fine..

Now when your on the gas and you do get high into the power band and you start to hook.. thats when you start breaking things..

Hard launches from a dig on some stickier tires put an outrageous amount of stress on the rear end components.. and metal doesn't resist twisting soo good.. or the metal teeth start snapping off.
lol Yea im gonna get a higher stall so I can baby the car and never let the hammer down ahahaha. We are all askin for it! lol




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It wouldn't be proper modding if you didn't break anything in the process of testing new **** out.

I like the way you think. But I think that kinda thinkin is gonna end up being big $$$
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Originally Posted by senicalj4579
I like the way you think. But I think that kinda thinkin is gonna end up being big $$$

Yeah true but how often do you NOT have to go to the parts store when your doing something. Most of the time you ALWAYS have to make a trip for one reason or another. I've learned not to get my hopes up about something not going wrong even if I do it 100% right.
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Originally Posted by 1badWS6
Yeah true but how often do you NOT have to go to the parts store when your doing something. Most of the time you ALWAYS have to make a trip for one reason or another. I've learned not to get my hopes up about something not going wrong even if I do it 100% right.
Yes!100% correct. Its almost like when you have to fix something small and you THINK you only need a couple tools. But I know better so I drag the whole toolbox out cause I know theres somethin else!

So im drivin the car yesterday and Im thinking about how guys say they spin the tires at 50mph with a stall. I noticed I can spin out at 40-50 without a stall. Nuts!
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10 bolts last in autos, and break in M6s. Most of the horror stories are from M6s.
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Breaking your 10 bolt and tearing up your trans are good excuses to buy built ones. You can get enough passes out of your stock parts to enjoy having a big stall before they finally give out.
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Street tires will not be useful AT ALL . Even my 315 35 17 nittos have a hard time getting traction in 1st gear when theyre not hot with my 4000 stall . Other than that ,they have doing just fine . If you beat the hell out out of something day in and day out ,it will eventually break . If you drive normal with the occasional beating at the track or on the street ,you should be fine .If your spinning at 40 -50mph w/o a stall ,,you tires SUCK !!! Unless you have a lot of RWHP .
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Originally Posted by SSmoken
Breaking your 10 bolt and tearing up your trans are good excuses to buy built ones. You can get enough passes out of your stock parts to enjoy having a big stall before they finally give out.
It is more than an excuse,its mandatory to have working parts on your car but the money is another thing. Anyway,I cant wait to get a stall lol
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Originally Posted by FASTEDDIE Z
Street tires will not be useful AT ALL . Even my 315 35 17 nittos have a hard time getting traction in 1st gear when theyre not hot with my 4000 stall . Other than that ,they have doing just fine . If you beat the hell out out of something day in and day out ,it will eventually break . If you drive normal with the occasional beating at the track or on the street ,you should be fine .If your spinning at 40 -50mph w/o a stall ,,you tires SUCK !!! Unless you have a lot of RWHP .
I can def spinn them at 40 and I swear I was at 50 the other day. My car is close to stock. Before the headers and ory it dynoed 316 rwh and 333rwt. It had a tune,torque management was deleted,and shift points were done. Tires are just regular 275 40 17 z rated. Lots of tread left on them lol. When you say my tires suck I assume you mean that I DONT have nittos? lol
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I think he meant like really old tires or really bald tires.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
I think he meant like really old tires or really bald tires.
they will be old and bald after the stall
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How about a tire brand/model, rather than just "they are Z rated and have lots of tread left "?
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MINE LASTED A YR OF GETTIN ITS *** KICKED WIT A 4.5K STALL AND STOCK 10 BOLT . THE TRANNY **** FIRST SO THERE IS A PERFORMABUILT IN IT NOW . THE REAR WILL HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH IM SURE

sorry for the c/lock it is stuck lol
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Originally Posted by 93v8clone
MINE LASTED A YR OF GETTIN ITS *** KICKED WIT A 4.5K STALL AND STOCK 10 BOLT . THE TRANNY **** FIRST SO THERE IS A PERFORMABUILT IN IT NOW . THE REAR WILL HAPPEN SOON ENOUGH IM SURE

sorry for the c/lock it is stuck lol
I know you said a year but how many miles did you put on it in that time? And how many miles did the stock tranny have before the stall?
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Yea man sounds like your tires really suck. The stall will definitely make it fun though
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I put a stall into my stock trans at 50K... it died a month later. Then with an FLT trans and a cheap stall. the Stall crapped out 2 months later and took the trans with it. then I got a Vig 3600 and FLT rebuilt the trans.. it lasted 60K of driving in all weather (yes snow as well), long trips, drag strip runs, heavy traffic, and other stupidity driving 40 miles a day back and forth to work in Chicago before the trans died. I had it rebuilt and the stall cut and clean and if it lasts another 60K I'll be happy.. Personally though I'd not put a stall on a stock trans.




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