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Old 05-07-2014, 02:42 PM
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I replaced the two speed sensors on the DS of my 4l80e and now it doesn't want to shift. While logging the mph stays at zero. Are there different speed sensors for the 4L80 trans and if so can you please share the part number. I bought mine of fleebay and they were made by ACdelco. The trans came out of a 1995 Van. It shifted just fine before the change but I wanted new sensors since I had the trans redone recently. And no, I do not have the old ones.

I would like to add that I have a Dakota Digital instrument cluster and it gets its speedo function off of the VSS wire and it was working. Soooooo I may have something else going on. Any suggestions?

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Sounds like a wiring issue. Highly doubtful you have an issue with speed sensors.
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I also replaced the internal harness cause mine was leaking. Everything plugged right in without any issues. Could I have gotten the wrong harness?
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Did it work before?
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Double check the wires at the sensors if you haven't already.

Does either sensor work? You should be able to log the ISS as well as the VSS.
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Everything worked before but last year while logging i noticed that the mph kind of fluttered off and on but it was shifting fine, however now it stays on zero. I checked the VS connector wires to the C2 connector pin 20 and 21. Everything checked out fine. Im trying to contact hptuners and see if they can look over my segment swap. Maybe something got "lost" within the tune while I was making changes over the winter.

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And like I mentioned earlier, I did change the wiring harness in the trans pan but there's no way you can mix that up. All the connectors fit their own specific plug.
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Here's where I'm at with this. As mentioned above I changed the internal wiring harness. Just to make sure I did not leave anything unplugged I dropped the pan and everything was plugged in. I got the harness off fleabay and the listing states that it was for years 1994 thru 2003. Well guess what, Rock Auto says this part (24241218) is for years 1996 thru 2003. My trans model year is 1995. Looks like I need part# 24200161. Buy the way, the trans came out of a P30 Van (to the best of my knowledge).

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The internal harness isn't related to your problem, and there isn't any difference 94-03.
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Ok thanks Jake. I had to give it a look-c cause that, along with the VS sensors is all I changed/messed with. .

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Well after checking my wiring and not finding anything unusual I logged Vehicle Speed (again) and Input Shaft Speed. Input shaft speed registered but VS did not. My Speedo works (Dakota Digital uses the VSS) and the sensors are new. I also got a new segment swap from HPtuners which did not fix the issue. I'm at a lost. I may just change out the PCM. Man I was trying not to dump MORE money into this thing. Haven't had a good season driving it yet.

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The VSS is a required input for the PCM to determine when to shift.

Lack of VSS signal is your problem.

It's a simple circuit, 2 wires.

If the trans has a reluctor ring inside, the sensor is there (they RARELY fail), and the wiring is good, you have a PCM issue.

However, be sure your Dakota dash isn't interfering with the signal. I would take it out of the circuit until you sort it out.
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Thanks for responding Jake. Yea it wouldn't shift and that's what brought it to my attention. I got a new PCM on the way. Hell, I've tried everything else but this.
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PCM's rarely fail too, as least on GM stuff.
I would look at the wiring from the VSS to the PCM closely. Take the Dakota digital out of the circuit, be sure the wires have good continuity, and check across both wires with a voltmeter with the driveshaft static and with it turning at low speed.
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Jake you were right on the money along with some others. It was the Dakota Digital Speedo killing the VSS signal. It worked last year but for some reason it decided not to work this time.



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