Cajun ELESS-ONE

you will need to get your ecu tuned to get the most benefits. shift points and tcc lockup and line pressure

"MAC"

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A stall will hurt it on the mpg but yes it will make it a lot more fun to drive. Just put a bigger trans cooler, some bolt ons and gears and a tune

madmike9396

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He said he was going to have it rebuilt ! Guess some didn't finish reading before posting.

"MAC"

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Nope read what i quoted then left

Kingc8r

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Anything sub 3600 is a waste IMHO. Then again I didn't buy my car for MPGs lol. I DD my SS3600 and I felt it was pretty damn tight with my 3.73 gears. When that rear blew and I threw in a 3.23 10 bolt it was definitely looser feeling than stock.

What are your future mod plans? If anything significant I'd say go larger than the 2800-3200. If going that small I'd go with Circle D's 3200. I myself upped my 3600 into a 4200 stall.

A stall is one of if not the most important mods to an auto car. Good luck.

thunderstruck507

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Normally I would agree, but the OP has very different goals than most of these threads that come up.

He said he never goes to the track, the car is a mild bolt on car, and he daily drives it. For what he's doing he can get nearly as much fun from a lower stall converter and spend about half as much money. Should also help prevent drag radials being 100% necessary.

I love my SS3600 and would recommend it for anyone wanting the BEST compromise between track and daily drivable, but for what he said he's doing it's just not necessary.

JRENIGAR

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My ss3600 with 3.23's feels a bit loser than I would like for my 50 mile each way daily commute. Its all highway and I only have 2 red lights to go through thank god Its not city traffic or the stall would be swapped for a lower one. I feel it might be alot better with some 3.42 or 3.73's but then we are taking away from the mileage aspect of it. I will say that my mileage did not go down on the highway but did somewhat in town as expected. I fill the car up twice a week and use the odometer to check it every time. OP, for what your wanting 3.23 or numerically lower gears Id use a 3200 max rpm stall and for 3.42 or numerically higher gears Id say up to 3600 rpm but no more.

"MAC"

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I think OP would benefit more from gears than a stall. I think a bigger stall would be pointless on stock cam. Unless you get one that starts in the power band of a stock cam

thunderstruck507

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If the car has 2.73 and he went to a 3.42 or maybe 3.73...if he has the 3.23s I wouldn't bother.

Also, if he is having the trans rebuilt he really needs to replace the converter anyway so part of the cost of a stall will be offset by the cost of a replacement stock converter.

"MAC"

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I agree with that but what size stall? Idk think a 3600 would be right hell i truly think that's over kill. Id suggest a 3200 max. It would be best for him to get a dyno tune and see where exactly the stock cam is starting to make some good power and then get a stall. Unless some one already knows the answer. Would you agree?

waltsfastz

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I have a 3600 edge stall. Installed it on 02 when it was bone stock beside headers. It was loose as hell, Since then I had it restalled to tighten it up a little for spray. I drove it daily. It would get 22-23 mpg on the interstate, Didnt notice much drop around town. The stall( with headers) did however drop it around a second with sticky tires.

"MAC"

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This, but OP needs to know that not all stalls are made equally and case in point you got better mpg than i did and you have a different 3600 stall than i do. I forgot who made my stall it was 4 years ago when i bought it. I saw a drop in mpg a lot more than you did

madmike9396

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THIS is why you don't buy junk stalls MAC !

Spend the $ on a good stall and save in the long run

"MAC"

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I agree and its your fault i got that shitty stall! Why because you didnt tell me before i bought it! Never mind i didn't ask your opinion that doesn't matter lol jk

Ima replace my trans eventually anyways so until then ima run my car till she breaks down again

madmike9396

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Sorry I learn new stuff every day

redtan

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A stall benefits more than just getting the car into it's power band quicker. The torque multiplication can make a huge difference in acceleration.

And even with the stock cam, a 4 speed auto only has 3 usable gears spaced very far apart. So unless you are at a good speed for a downshift right in the meat of the powerband, the car is going to struggle from a roll. The 1800 stock stall is nowhere near high enough even for a stock cam, and something like a 32-3600 is going to keep him in the meat of the powerband no matter what speed he is at. That alone makes a huge difference vs. having 10-15mph "windows" for good power and the rest crap.

And from a stop, the stock stall is not going to flash nearly high enough in the band to get it going properly, heck even my 2800 aftermarket unit is too small and that's 1000 more than stock.

LFSADRG

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Very recently installed a Circle D 3800 behind a stock LS1. Stock meaning starting from the TB to end of the exhaust manifolds even w/AIR.

After trans tuning (which is not exactly simple so be prepared) and 3.73 gears the car screams. It can be used as a daily without incident although the main purpose of the car is for bracket racing.

For myself, I researched this site for the results of a converter install then contacted vendors for their recommendation. Shop wisely to get the proper setup.

thunderstruck507

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For even a bone stock car:

4000+ for max effort drag

3600 for aggressive street/strip

2800-3200 for what the OP sounds like he wants (no racing, just a fun daily, will cost about half the price of a billet 3600 unit)

murphinator

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no better bang for the buck mod for an a4 car IMO , my 3600 vigilante is a piece of cake to drive around , wouldn't hesitate to go 4k next car I stall quality is the key

maxspeed05V

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I love my $400 circle D 3200, But from what I read the Yank SS driveablity is even closer to stock with awesome WOT performance its just double the $.

Either way, definitely stall it !