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Stall or No Stall?
So I have a 99Z with 172k miles. Its completely stock. My trans is slipping and shifts extremely hard. I plan on having it rebuilt most likely. This car is my DD, 50+ miles a day to school and back. Doesn't go to the strip at all or anything like that, just race friends every once in awhile.. Since I drive so much I would like to keep the mpg good still. so my question is, would it be beneficial to have a stall put in when I get the work done? Would it be more fun to drive?
Thanks, Brendan
Thanks, Brendan
Anything sub 3600 is a waste IMHO. Then again I didn't buy my car for MPGs lol. I DD my SS3600 and I felt it was pretty damn tight with my 3.73 gears. When that rear blew and I threw in a 3.23 10 bolt it was definitely looser feeling than stock.
What are your future mod plans? If anything significant I'd say go larger than the 2800-3200. If going that small I'd go with Circle D's 3200. I myself upped my 3600 into a 4200 stall.
A stall is one of if not the most important mods to an auto car. Good luck.
What are your future mod plans? If anything significant I'd say go larger than the 2800-3200. If going that small I'd go with Circle D's 3200. I myself upped my 3600 into a 4200 stall.
A stall is one of if not the most important mods to an auto car. Good luck.
Normally I would agree, but the OP has very different goals than most of these threads that come up.
He said he never goes to the track, the car is a mild bolt on car, and he daily drives it. For what he's doing he can get nearly as much fun from a lower stall converter and spend about half as much money. Should also help prevent drag radials being 100% necessary.
I love my SS3600 and would recommend it for anyone wanting the BEST compromise between track and daily drivable, but for what he said he's doing it's just not necessary.
He said he never goes to the track, the car is a mild bolt on car, and he daily drives it. For what he's doing he can get nearly as much fun from a lower stall converter and spend about half as much money. Should also help prevent drag radials being 100% necessary.
I love my SS3600 and would recommend it for anyone wanting the BEST compromise between track and daily drivable, but for what he said he's doing it's just not necessary.
My ss3600 with 3.23's feels a bit loser than I would like for my 50 mile each way daily commute. Its all highway and I only have 2 red lights to go through thank god Its not city traffic or the stall would be swapped for a lower one. I feel it might be alot better with some 3.42 or 3.73's but then we are taking away from the mileage aspect of it. I will say that my mileage did not go down on the highway but did somewhat in town as expected. I fill the car up twice a week and use the odometer to check it every time. OP, for what your wanting 3.23 or numerically lower gears Id use a 3200 max rpm stall and for 3.42 or numerically higher gears Id say up to 3600 rpm but no more.
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Verdad Gallardo If the car has 2.73 and he went to a 3.42 or maybe 3.73...if he has the 3.23s I wouldn't bother.
Also, if he is having the trans rebuilt he really needs to replace the converter anyway so part of the cost of a stall will be offset by the cost of a replacement stock converter.
Also, if he is having the trans rebuilt he really needs to replace the converter anyway so part of the cost of a stall will be offset by the cost of a replacement stock converter.
If the car has 2.73 and he went to a 3.42 or maybe 3.73...if he has the 3.23s I wouldn't bother.
Also, if he is having the trans rebuilt he really needs to replace the converter anyway so part of the cost of a stall will be offset by the cost of a replacement stock converter.
Also, if he is having the trans rebuilt he really needs to replace the converter anyway so part of the cost of a stall will be offset by the cost of a replacement stock converter.
I have a 3600 edge stall. Installed it on 02 when it was bone stock beside headers. It was loose as hell, Since then I had it restalled to tighten it up a little for spray. I drove it daily. It would get 22-23 mpg on the interstate, Didnt notice much drop around town. The stall( with headers) did however drop it around a second with sticky tires.
I have a 3600 edge stall. Installed it on 02 when it was bone stock beside headers. It was loose as hell, Since then I had it restalled to tighten it up a little for spray. I drove it daily. It would get 22-23 mpg on the interstate, Didnt notice much drop around town. The stall( with headers) did however drop it around a second with sticky tires.
Spend the $ on a good stall and save in the long run
Ima replace my trans eventually anyways so until then ima run my car till she breaks down again
I think a bigger stall would be pointless on stock cam. Unless you get one that starts in the power band of a stock cam
And even with the stock cam, a 4 speed auto only has 3 usable gears spaced very far apart. So unless you are at a good speed for a downshift right in the meat of the powerband, the car is going to struggle from a roll. The 1800 stock stall is nowhere near high enough even for a stock cam, and something like a 32-3600 is going to keep him in the meat of the powerband no matter what speed he is at. That alone makes a huge difference vs. having 10-15mph "windows" for good power and the rest crap.
And from a stop, the stock stall is not going to flash nearly high enough in the band to get it going properly, heck even my 2800 aftermarket unit is too small and that's 1000 more than stock.
Very recently installed a Circle D 3800 behind a stock LS1. Stock meaning starting from the TB to end of the exhaust manifolds even w/AIR.
After trans tuning (which is not exactly simple so be prepared) and 3.73 gears the car screams. It can be used as a daily without incident although the main purpose of the car is for bracket racing.
For myself, I researched this site for the results of a converter install then contacted vendors for their recommendation. Shop wisely to get the proper setup.
After trans tuning (which is not exactly simple so be prepared) and 3.73 gears the car screams. It can be used as a daily without incident although the main purpose of the car is for bracket racing.
For myself, I researched this site for the results of a converter install then contacted vendors for their recommendation. Shop wisely to get the proper setup.
