First Low 11 Second Camaro ZL1

[DoggyB22]

Lingenfelter took their ZL1 to the track to make a couple passes & this is what they got!! if only 5th gens weighed 35xx-36xx lbs!! Id expect a high 10 sec pass pretty soon! Mods posted by Lingenfelter on Facebook are Pulley, Injectors, cold air kit, ported throttle body and drag radials and a tune. http://blogs.hotrod.com/the-race-to-the-10s-23325.html The ZL1 that wore the Lingenfelter banner at the track had minimal modifications. The only underhood upgrades was the LPE was outfitted with were a supercharger pulley to bump up the boost, reflashed ECM, 160-degree thermostat and a LPE ported and polished airintake leading to a K&N air filter. The only other modifications to the car were swapping out the street performance tires for skinnies up front and Nitto NT05R drag radials out back. This very car had run 11.03 at 130 mph at Muncie Dragway. With great air temperatures and the Milan track team prepping the starting line, it looked like a promising day. The first pass was decent, posting an 11.22. During the next series of passes, an assortment of launched styles, shift points and tire air pressure showed varied results. Although no one was complaining about making passes at a dragstrip for a couple of hours, the team could only capture an 11.11 at 128 mph during this track outing. So, the illusive 10-second ZL1 Camaro is still illusive! But the crew at Lingenfelter vows to be back, and soon, to try to be the first! The only thing under hood on the Lingenfelter Performance Engineering (LPE) ZL1 Camaro that hints that the car is not stock is the polished air intake tube and open-element K&N air filter. A more trained eye will also notice that he supercharger pulley is not stock, which increases boost 3-4 psi over stock. To help with traction, A set of Nitto NT05R drag radials were bolted on the rear of the car. These are P305/45R18s, while a pair of 5.50-17 tires up remove the drag of wide front tires.

[It'llrun]

I read what appears to be the same article you have here, already posted in another thread. That one didn't mention replaced injectors that I noticed, but it did mention skinnies. This article actually mentions them, just not by calling them skinnies... 5.5" tires on 17's instead. It isn't like they're invisible anyway.

Sadly, the mention of these mods and not nailing any 10's is going to give the GT500 crowd something to howl over because those apparently have run well into the 10's with the same basic changes. I seem to remember big talk over 11.22 with only a set of slicks bolted on out back. Whatever though. Nobody truly expected this car to run with the GT500 on a drag strip anyway, except in the auto ZL1.

This ZL1 is a strong runner. It may not be the quickest car, but it is an instant classic. It will have a strong following for another 40yrs, the good Lord willing and the creeks don't rise, if ya know what I mean.

[whytryz28]

The GT500 will eat this car alive haha. Pullied on race gas and it can't hit 10's all day... Good job Chevy

[Mavmavv]

Originally Posted by whytryz28

The GT500 will eat this car alive haha. Pullied on race gas and it can't hit 10's all day... Good job Chevy

Im inclined to agree, the thing is just a pig.

[Tainted]

Good going gm! You finally show up late to the party, and disappoint!

Im sorry, but with those mods, those tiny *** tires and **** this car is a fat *** ******* pig. My ls6 transam was at 450hp and could get into the very high 11s with less displacememt, no forced induction, street tires etc etc

[ULTIMATEORANGESS]

ill see what others will get out of this and see if its a matter of getting it dialed in to get more out of it.



im still waiting for an 11 sec stock time or im going to be disappointed.

[navyblueSS]

The first modified times and people are already downing the car. Chill people the mph shows the car has huge potential, from what I read the DA was less than ideal. I predict much faster times are coming.

[whytryz28]

No, the engine has huge potential, the fat *** frame its in does not. The 5th gen platform was a failure as soon as they mentioned the weight was 4klbs+

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Originally Posted by navyblueSS

The first modified times and people are already downing the car. Chill people the mph shows the car has huge potential, from what I read the DA was less than ideal. I predict much faster times are coming.

Ok ill give you that, with better DA it would have hit 10's

[jmurray87]

I wouldn't say 11.03 is slow for a car that weights 4,000lbs and is still new to the market.

[DoggyB22]

Originally Posted by whytryz28

The GT500 will eat this car alive haha. Pullied on race gas and it can't hit 10's all day... Good job Chevy

Which year GT500 are we talking about here? & race gas? Lol...

Originally Posted by Tainted

Good going gm! You finally show up late to the party, and disappoint!

Im sorry, but with those mods, those tiny *** tires and **** this car is a fat *** ******* pig. My ls6 transam was at 450hp and could get into the very high 11s with less displacememt, no forced induction, street tires etc etc

Yea.... COOL STORY BRO! & how much did your "450 hp Trans Am" weigh?? high 11's to almost high 10s is COMPLETELY different & isn't even worth talking **** like you are... what was your mph? Doubt it was 130 mph! & you did why 11's on street tires?? vids/pics or it didn't happen

Originally Posted by navyblueSS

The first modified times and people are already downing the car. Chill people the mph shows the car has huge potential, from what I read the DA was less than ideal. I predict much faster times are coming.

Smaller rims & M/T will get it in the 10's for sure!

Originally Posted by jmurray87

I wouldn't say 11.03 is slow for a car that weights 4,000lbs and is still new to the market.

Exactly I don't know wtf some of you are smoking but this car weighs 4,xxx. LITERALLY just came out. & on some 305 18" wheels............. keep the skinnies up front & throw some 15" wheels with M/T & I don't think any of you would be talking ****. 130 mph in the 1/4 mile is pretty damn respectable?

[Z Fury]

The reason for the hate on the car is due to GM's engineer touting how this car can/will run with the 2013 GT500. The times are pretty damn impressive for a car that weighs this much, but it falls short of the claims made by the guys who designed the car. Thus, disappointment.

I'd still be beyond happy to own a car like this, but if I were looking for strictly a track car, the GT500 would get my money every time.

[whytryz28]

Originally Posted by DoggyB22

Which year GT500 are we talking about here? & race gas? Lol...

Someone doesn't read his own posts. VP109 tested as drag strip configuration.


Also those 18" LPE probably weight less than my 17" ZR1 wheels so rim size isn't an issue, the whole car is.

[Johnnystock]

IMO 130mph is damn impressive with no internal mods. This car is faster than most plp would think but the hate is intense. But, I agree the ZL1 mod for mod is kinda very close to the present GT500.

Some plp need to chill!! But, maybe when the GT500 with 650hp will show up and destroy the Camaro, we will talk **** like everyone!

Still the ZR1 is an instant classic true, and the price is already cheaper than a GT500..

[HioSSilver]

I always thought gt500's were unimpressive. This car smokes the current one. I have no idea what some of you nuthuggers are thinking. From the vids I've seen the gt500 needs a whipple to mph in the same league as this car. No one even knows how the 13 gt500 will run yet.......and we are still in '12 by the way so compare it to the current model.

[96RamAirTA]

Originally Posted by DoggyB22

Exactly I don't know wtf some of you are smoking but this car weighs 4,xxx. LITERALLY just came out. & on some 305 18" wheels............. keep the skinnies up front & throw some 15" wheels with M/T & I don't think any of you would be talking ****. 130 mph in the 1/4 mile is pretty damn respectable?

I don't think 15s would fit on the rear with the size brakes most new cars are run nowa days.

[DoggyB22]

Originally Posted by Johnnystock

IMO 130mph is damn impressive with no internal mods. This car is faster than most plp would think but the hate is intense. But, I agree the ZL1 mod for mod is kinda very close to the present GT500.

Some plp need to chill!! But, maybe when the GT500 with 650hp will show up and destroy the Camaro, we will talk **** like everyone!

Still the ZR1 is an instant classic true, and the price is already cheaper than a GT500..

ZL1....

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

I always thought gt500's were unimpressive. This car smokes the current one. I have no idea what some of you nuthuggers are thinking. From the vids I've seen the gt500 needs a whipple to mph in the same league as this car. No one even knows how the 13 gt500 will run yet.......and we are still in '12 by the way so compare it to the current model.

Exactly people tend to forget that Ford made the 2013 GT500 in response to the ZL1...... NO ONE even knew about the 2013 GT500 when the ZL1 was first announced. GM used the previous year GT500 for a bench mark. Which I think they beat. So maybe GM will up the hp on the ZL1 in response to the 2013 GT500? Who knows

[Z Fury]

Originally Posted by DoggyB22

Exactly people tend to forget that Ford made the 2013 GT500 in response to the ZL1...... NO ONE even knew about the 2013 GT500 when the ZL1 was first announced. GM used the previous year GT500 for a bench mark. Which I think they beat. So maybe GM will up the hp on the ZL1 in response to the 2013 GT500? Who knows

To be fair, how long ago was the 2012 GT500 released compared to the 2012 ZL1 Camaro? If anything, the ZL1 should be a 2012.5...

[gocartone]

The fastest BONE STOCK 2011/12 GT500 with slicks/skinnys went 11.16 at 124, it took the ZL1 this much just to beat that by a little. Chevy should have spent more time putting this pig on a diet!

[MI-Z/28]

Originally Posted by whytryz28

VP109 tested as drag strip configuration.

Surprised no one else is mentioning this. Took race fuel to produce those runs? What did it run on pump 93 or 91?

[HioSSilver]

Originally Posted by gocartone

The fastest BONE STOCK 2011/12 GT500 with slicks/skinnys went 11.16 at 124, it took the ZL1 this much just to beat that by a little. Chevy should have spent more time putting this pig on a diet!

You don't know what that guy did to run that. I've seen 3 run this year, all with various mods and the fastest one went a 11.8@ 121. The other 2 were in the 12's at less than 120.

The race fuel thing sucks....but give them some time to mess with meth or e85. Either of which could possibly and potentially do better than the race fuel.