BOATDOCTOR

ive got an 04 v with a magnaflow cat back system how would i do against an automatic 04 or 05 c6 vette?

jerrad

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You'd get beat.
About the same rwhp, weigh alot less, have great aerodynamics.

CTSV_510

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well an '04 vette is a C5 and an '05 is a C6. Big difference. You can probably hang with the '04 but not the '05.

nikon

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Ive hung with 04' z06's... c5's shouldn't be any problem...if you can launch at least....don't expect to do so well against a C6...you may hang for a little from a roll, but eventually you'll lose.

TopV

or...you can have mikenice beat up on him for you.

BOATDOCTOR

come down to so cal!

or i can just race him with my 67 chevelle its a 10.0 car but i dont think he will go for it.

so it sounds like im gonna have to make it a 04 c5 and ill have to out drive him. i feel like with his automatic i should have no problem.

onebadcad

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Must have been a very deficient driver, as a stock C5Z will crush any stock V1.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-14877.html

I realize that everyone will say the time posted is a freak, okay, just show me one 'Freak' stock V time under 13 seconds. The C5, we will not even discuss the C6, which BTW most C5Z owners will tell you are not as fast, at least not the LS2s, is about 700lbs lighter, can be launched, and pulls like a *****. You may beat a C5, not a C5Z, from a roll, in your sweet spot.
Not bashing the V, I own one, but a C5/C6 is a much quicker car given the same mods/HP and driver skills.

onebadcad

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Someone is not a homer, thanks.

onebadcad

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Here is what you will need to make it competitive:

1) Fuel up with 108 octane
2) Remove spare tire and rear seat
3) No passengers for you, insist Corvette has a passenger than can film the race, get him one of those old-school camcorders, the ones that hold a full-size VHS tape and has a shoulder mount/pad
4) Go from 60-130mph, only one shift, slam it hard into 4th at 95mph
5) Leave early, usually three horn beeps are the rule from a roll, nail it hard right after the second beep
6) Put side view mirrors in back position, cuts drags by like .0001

Good luck, you will need it, if the C6 is an LS3, do not even try, it will be ugly from the onset.

onebadcad

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A stock V1 'may' beat a stock C5-non Z, but no other C5s or C6s. Weight and aerodynamics are differences that cannot be overcome.

onebadcad

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Damn, it looks like I just took over this thread,,, my sincere apoogies to the OP, no malice intended.

04ctsvfl

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Onebadcad....

I have pulled an automatic convertible c6 over and over again. I have also lost to a automatic c6. There are a few different gearing options. It is a rarity but if you find one with the crappy gears....its beatable, as I have beat this same guy about 10 times in a row. Ill try and get a vid next time we line up. From a 40....I put about a full length on him to 100. I havent raced any c5's.

But i guarantee we have no chance against a c5 z06 with the 400hp motor. My understanding is, that there are z06 out there from 99/00/01 that have a 385hp motor? is this true?

To have any chance, you need to rape your gearbox, and learn to shift.

These posts "can i beat this" arent really meaningful, as the V is one of the hardest cars to drive...WELL! That said, one guy can only muster a 14.0 at the track in a V, while someone else in that same V can muster 12.9 because they can drive, the other guy cant.

onebadcad

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Agree with all, but then again you are not stock. A C6, driven properly (insert turning off all stability and traction crap), should beat a stock V1 from a dig and a roll, maybe from 60-135mph may produce a different result 'some' of the time, but definitely not 'most'.

adanieljohnson1

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i want to race a vette!!!!! i HAVE NO CHANCE BUT WHAT THE HELL!

onebadcad

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You 'may' have a chance if you follow my tips:


Here is what you will need to make it competitive:

1) Fuel up with 108 octane
2) Remove spare tire and rear seat
3) No passengers for you, insist Corvette has a passenger than can film the race, get him one of those old-school camcorders, the ones that hold a full-size VHS tape and has a shoulder mount/pad
4) Go from 60-130mph, only one shift, slam it hard into 4th at 95mph
5) Leave early, usually three horn beeps are the rule from a roll, nail it hard right after the second beep
6) Put side view mirrors in back position, cuts drags by like .0001

Good luck, you will need it, if the C6 is an LS3, do not even try, it will be ugly from the onset.

onebadcad

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WTF bro', you own the road with your new V, everything else is just a Prius, you are the unbeatable force, go fawk with everyone on the road, you have nothing to lose, take on all comers, C6Zs, ZR1s, Lambos, Ferraris, Saleens (not that cheap Mustang imitation crap), Ford GTs, etc... When I had my V, in the first month I got crushed by a Viper, a Renntech SL65, at least three C5Zs, and a few other more powerful cars. Enjoy life, brags about your kills, do not mention your losses, life is better that way, enjoy and ride 'er hard!!!

adanieljohnson1

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How would we hold up to the C4?

onebadcad

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Should be a no issue, found these tidbits for ya:

Engine : V8, OHV, front engine RWD
Displacement : 5,733 cc
Valve : unknown
Transmission : 4-spd manual('85-'88), 4-spd automatic
6-spd manual('89-'90)
Fuel economy : city - 17 mpg
highway - 24 mpg

Horsepower : 230/235/240 hp @ 4000 rpm('85/'86/'87)
245 hp @ 4000 rpm('88-'90)
Torque : 330-345 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm('85-'90)
0-60 mph : 6.3 sec.

Curb Weight : 3280-3320 lbs
Overall length : 176.5 in.
Wheelbase : 96.2 in.
Overall Width : 71.0 in.
Height : 46.4 in.

Except for a ZR-1, which I think had 405 BHP/385 TQ, 0-60 4.9secs, 0-100 11.5secs, you should be good.

onebadcad

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Regarding the C4, here is plenty of good reading if you have yet to discharge your breakfast/lunch/both:

C4 (1983–1996)
Main article: Chevrolet Corvette C4

Corvette C4The fourth generation Corvette began production in March 1983 as a 1984 model. The 1983 model year was skipped due to production problems, although 44 prototype 1983 models were completed. Corvette C4 production began in March 1983 as a 1984 model, and ended in 1996.

This first year model of the C4 carried over the L83 engine from the previous, 3rd generation Corvette. The L83 engine had a unique fuel delivery method dubbed "Crossfire": a dual throttle-body injection system. With the first major body, chassis and suspension change since 1963, the new C4 coupe incorporated a rear glass hatch for much improved cargo access, all new brakes with aluminum calipers, an all aluminum suspension for weight savings and rigidity, and the first one piece targa top with no center reinforcement. The Corvette C4 came standard with an electronic dashboard with digital liquid crystal displays for the speedometer and tachometer. The 1984 C4 was a complete and total redesign except for its engine, and the emphasis was on handling with the introduction of the front transverse composite leaf spring (still used today on new Corvettes).

Between 1984 and 1988, the Corvette utilized an unusual "4+3" transmission—a 4-speed manual coupled to an automatic overdrive on the top three gears. It was designed to help the Corvette meet U.S. fuel economy standards. The transmission was problematic and was eventually replaced by a much more modern and satisfactory ZF 6-speed manual gearbox in 1989. This new transmission was also the first to feature Computer Aided Gear Selection (CAGS), which used a solenoid to lock out 2nd gear during low-speed/low-throttle driving conditions.[15] This allowed the Corvette to maintain EPA fuel economy ratings high enough to avoid the "gas guzzler" tax. Beginning in 1985, the 230 horsepower (170 kW) L98 engine with tuned port fuel injection was the standard engine.

In 1986 the 2nd Indy Pace Car version was released as a convertible only. It was the first drop top Corvette since 1975. It was also the first pace car fast enough in stock form to pace the Indianapolis 500.[citation needed] A Center High Mounted Signal Light (CHMSL, a third center brake light) was added in 1986 to comply with federal law.

1988 saw the 35th Anniversary Edition. Each of these featured a special badge with an identification number mounted next to the gear selector. These Corvettes were easily identified with their white exteriors, wheels and interiors.

For the 1992 model year, the 300 horsepower (220 kW) LT1 engine was introduced, which improved output compared to the L98 in ideal tune with 250 hp (190 kW). Also introduced in 1992 was Acceleration Slip Regulation (ASR), a form of traction control which utilized the Corvette's brakes, spark retard and throttle close-down to prevent excessive rear wheel spin and possible loss of control. The traction control device could be switched off if desired.

1993 marked the Corvette's 40th anniversary. Special versions had a commemorative Ruby Red color, 40th anniversary badges and embroidered seat backs. The 1993 Corvette also marked the introduction of the Passive Keyless Entry System, the first GM car to feature it.

1996 was the final year of C4 production, and featured special models and options, including the Grand Sport and Collector Edition, OBD II (On-Board Diagnostics), run flat tires, and the LT4 engine. The 330 hp (246 kW) LT4 V8 was installed in all manual transmission equipped Corvettes. All 1996 Corvettes with automatic transmissions utilized the LT1.

The C4's handling characteristics and cornering ability allowed it to dominate SCCA events and races during the 1980s and 1990s. It was undefeated in SCCA Showroom Stock competition from 1985 through 1987, despite Porsche's best efforts. Porsche reportedly even obtained a C4 Corvette for teardown and examination.[citation needed]

The C4 had plenty of firsts: EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection), composite transverse leaf springs, antilock brakes, airbags, traction control, an aluminum frame and suspension components, digital gauges, overhead cams and four valves per cylinder in the superb ZR-1, a computer controlled, six-speed manual transmission, climate control, and a digital instrument panel. Conversely, C4 Corvettes were the last generation to utilize a centrally located fuel filler (1963), opposing windshield wipers (1953), a cast iron engine block (1953), 4 round taillights (1961), fiberglass body panels (1953), distributor ignition (1953).


[edit] B2K Callaway "Sledgehammer" Twin-Turbo
In 1987, the factory B2K option became available from the factory.

The Callaway Corvette was a Regular Production Option (RPO B2K), the only time in Chevrolet's history a specialist manufacturer was entrusted with a technically advanced high performance RPO. The B2K option was eventually replaced by the ZR-1 option, though they coexisted from 1990-1991. The early B2K's produced 345 hp (257 kW) and 450 ft·lbf (610 N·m) of torque.[16] The later B2K's produced 450 hp (336 kW) and 613 ft·lbf (831 N·m) of torque.[17]


[edit] ZR-1 (1990–1995)

1995 Corvette ZR-1In 1986, the Corvette team approached Lotus, then a GM subsidiary, with the idea of developing an ultra-high performance vehicle based on the C4 Corvette. With input from GM's "Corvette Team" of engineers and designers, Lotus designed a new engine to replace the traditional pushrod L98 V-8 that powered the standard C4. The result was the LT5, an aluminum-block V-8 with the same bore centers as the L98, but with four overhead camshafts and 32 valves. Lotus designed a unique air management system for the engine to provide a wider power band by shutting off 8 of the 16 intake runners and fuel injectors when the engine was at part-throttle, while still giving the ZR-1 375 hp when at wide open throttle. As Chevrolet had no facility available which could manufacture the new LT5, construction of the engines was subcontracted to Mercury Marine, a company in Stillwater, Oklahoma which normally specialized in high-performance marine engines.

Lotus also aided in the development of the ZR-1's standard "FX3" active suspension system, which would provide the basis for active suspension systems found (as optional equipment) on all Corvettes since. Much of the ZR-1 tuning was done at Belding, Michigan's "Grattan" raceway.

In 1990, the ZR-1 set a 24 hour speed endurance record at the Firestone test track in Fort Stockton Texas using a near-stock LT5 engine with only minor modifications, including removal of the catalytic converters. The Tommy Morrison racing team averaged 175 mph (282 km/h), including time for re-fueling and several driver changes.

In 1991, all Corvettes received updates to body work, interior, and wheels. The convex rear fascia that set the 1990 ZR-1 apart from the base model was now included on L98 Corvettes, making the styling of the expensive ZR-1 even closer to that of the base cars. The most obvious difference remaining between the base and ZR-1 models besides the wider rear wheels was the location of the CHMSL (center high mounted stop lamp), which was integrated into the new rear fascia used on the base model, but remained at the top of the rear-hatch on the ZR-1's. All corvette ZR-1's had a interesting feature, a power key. It was mounted underneath the radio and using a key you could turn the power from "full" which means all the horsepower and "normal" which disabled the secondary intake ports cutting the power to 200 hp (150 kW). This system is commonly referred to as a "valet key", and was reset to "normal" after the engine was shut off.

Further changes were made in 1992: ZR-1 badges were displayed on both front fenders and traction control was added as a standard feature. In 1993, Lotus redesigned the cylinder heads and valve-train of the LT5, resulting in a horsepower increase from 375 to 405. In addition, a new exhaust gas recirculation system improved emissions control. Production of the ZR-1 ended in 1995, after 6,939 cars had been built.


[edit] Grand Sport (1996)
Chevrolet released the Grand Sport version in 1996 at the end of C4 Corvette production. The "Grand Sport" moniker was a nod to the original Grand Sport model produced in 1963. A total of 1,000 Grand Sports were produced. The 810 coupes and 190 convertibles were produced with a special VIN sequence to differentiate them from the other 1996 C4 models. The 1996 Grand Sport was equipped with the LT4 engine, which produced 330 hp (246 kW) and 340 lb·ft (461 N·m) of torque. All LT4-powered Corvettes included a Grand Sport nameplate on the engine's throttle body. The Grand Sport came only in Admiral Blue with a white center stripe, distinctive black five spoke wheels, and two red hash marks on the hood above the left front wheel. Interior colors were black and red only. A hardtop option was not available with Grand Sport convertibles. They also added rear wheel arch extensions on the body, as the Grand Sport utilized the same rear wheels as a ZR-1.


[edit] Collector Edition (1996)
To commemorate the final year of the C4, Chevrolet reissued a Collector Edition. Also produced in low numbers, all CE's were painted Sebring Silver, a color reminiscent of the 1963 Sting Ray and later retained for the C-5 color lineup. A near mirror image of the Grand Sport, if properly equipped, it also got the 5 spoke "A mold" wheels in matching silver, bigger ZR-1 brakes, and a myriad of standard features. Like all production 1996 Corvettes, the LT-4 received the ZF 6-speed gearbox thought by many to be the strongest GM transmission ever.[citation needed] Automatics were an option, and still retained the LT-1. CE's were also available in a convertible with 3 interior color choices, red, silver and black.

adanieljohnson1

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OMFG dude???? lol, This would take me all day!!!