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Old 10-28-2011, 04:49 PM
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we'll I put a spec'd cam in my car to match some heads that I wanted. Either ported LS2 or LS3 heads. But I have been working a lot of overtime these past two weeks and might be thinking of going a different route

choices:

-maggie
-nitrous
-ls3 uppers

I really want to do a maggie now, but everyone is telling me that the mp112 maxes out at about 500RWHP. so essentially I would be getting 70RWHP off this maggie? What about the mp122? Bolt on for LS2? and what are the benefits over the 112. I cant really seem to find much about these

Sitting here; nitrous is now outta the runnings, haha

LS3 uppers........... It would be the cheaper route, but a maggie Just sounds a little more fun.

long story short, i'm leaning towards the supercharged route, but I dont want to have to change my cam, bla bla bla

Would a 222/224 112LSA be more of a blower cam? Or would I have to put a different one in

All help would be appreciated,
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look into the TVS blowers.. guy over at ls1gto made over 700 on a ls1 bottom end and the 2300 not sure if they have a kit for you though.
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You can Google a 122 on a LS2.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5b...-supercha_auto

Unreal power, but you have to forge the motor.
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Could u use a bigger pulley on the 122 to keep the boost down and not have to forge ur motor?

And with my cam. Do you guys know if I would have to switch it out with a different one?
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Originally Posted by wcryan
Could u use a bigger pulley on the 122 to keep the boost down and not have to forge ur motor?

And with my cam. Do you guys know if I would have to switch it out with a different one?
Absolutely. I run 1:1 rears and a 3.1" front pulley for 8 PSI and 550rwhp. Although I am upgrading my fuel pump and dropping to a 2.9" upper would should put me near 10 PSI and 600 rwhp. Hopefully the LS6 hangs on!

As for your cam questions...Its best to call the pro's when specing a cam for a certain application. Any of us internet mechanics can tell you yeah or nah but at the end of day we are just internet mechanics.
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How much did the 122 run u?
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The beauty of the 112 kit is that it's complete and can be installed in a day, everything else will have to be custom and much more of a pain in the *** especially if you have not done one before.

One thing that I find odd is that nobody has gotten their 112 ported yet, the 112 was used on the Ford's (Lightning's and Cobra's) and they always responded very well to porting. Wondering if 550 - 600 might be achievable with a ported unit over having to piece together something else.
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I believe the 'p' in mp112 actually stands for ported? It was a similar one used on the lightnings but from my understanding cleaned up some. Someone correct me if I'm wrong! Also any more than 500rwhp with a stock LS bottom end and you really run the risk of failure. I think that's why so many people stick with the 112.
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I have pics of both stock Eaton/Manguson discharge and one ported by Stiegmeier. The ones we get in the kit are NOT ported like this.
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Your cam isnt gonan kill you with a blower. Only thing that would help it out more would be a wider LSA but with the power and bosot youll be throwing at the motor its not gonna hinder your performance much.

You cant find the 122 anymore unless you stumble upon a used one. You could get a e-force kit modified to fit if you wanna spend soem money.

I highly recommended staying away from N/A, do soem type of forced induction if you wanna go fast.
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Who makes an eforce kit for our car that fits?
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I'm new to the platform but have done a lot of research on the maggie and just recently went with it and a cam.

From what I've read, Most get around 470whp out of the maggie and 500ish with the cam and blower. Keep in mind.. This is average and from what I read some are getting around the 510-520 range (though its common knowledge that different dynos read out different numbers).

The reason I chose the setup I did was this...

I wanted to continue to have drivability as I commute about 80 miles a day with a fair amount of stop in go in the first leg of the commute.

I had no interest in 550whp+ as i read that you were pretty much playing with fire at that point in regards to motor reliability.

I noticed lots of people with the maggie just did Gforce axles, motor-trans mounts, and called it a day (obviously no launching hard). As oppose to other applications that are pretty much going to require some sort of rear end change followed with a nice clutch setup (it gets expensive quick).

Based off of all these things, I venture to say that bang for the buck... The maggie is the best deal out there. It's not over the top and won't overly impress everyone at the next V meet but it will throw the socks off of the hooker you just picked up on the corner. She might even give you a few extra tugs for another ride home
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Originally Posted by dr.duct_mossburg
It's not over the top and won't overly impress everyone at the next V meet but it will throw the socks off of the hooker you just picked up on the corner. She might even give you a few extra tugs for another ride home
Hahaha, well said Dr.
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Originally Posted by wcryan
Who makes an eforce kit for our car that fits?
Nobody at the moment, you have to piece it together from an LS2 Corvette kit. It would be nice if Edelbrock would sell their tuner kits with just the supercharger and tensioner, but you will end up paying for all kinds of stuff that you do not need and cannot use if you go this route, leaving you to purchase/fabricate the remaining items that you do need. Makes things pretty pricey in the end.
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Originally Posted by wcryan
How much did the 122 run u?
Got it used. That is the only way you will find one unless you buy the 122 head unit and bolt it on a 112 base yourself. (That is what the "kits" that were out did).
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I love my maggie. its the baby 112 but aside from my car being otherwise stock besides my overkill rearend my car still scares the poop outa me sometimes.
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if I buy a 112 for an ls6, what do I need to make it fit an ls2?
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Im not 100% positive but i wanna say that you would need a GTO maggie valley cover thingy that houses the intercooler under the head unit. If any of that makes any sense? I forget what its actually called.
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Originally Posted by COLEVETTE
Im not 100% positive but i wanna say that you would need a GTO maggie valley cover thingy that houses the intercooler under the head unit. If any of that makes any sense? I forget what its actually called.
Valley Cover.




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