4th Gen Camaro/Firebird ASR delete FINALLY!
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4th Gen Camaro/Firebird ASR delete FINALLY!
Hello folks, I've been coming here for knowledge for a while and I actually have something useful to throw in!
I have found a way to keep the ASR unit plugged in, still on, and "Low trac" still pops up, but I'm blowing tires off rims without my foot being rejected!
The mod is so simple and as soon as you get far enough, you may even feel stupid for never looking, I did.
WHY THIS WORKS: The ASR unit has a cam-like gear that is geared for high torque. the center of this gear is hollow, and in this hollowed space lies a **** that sticks down from the main cable wheel and swings it back around. If this **** were to say, be gone, the high torque cam will still swing and hit its destination stop without interfering with the cable wheel, thus still creating its electrical load to keep from a system fault.
STEP 1: unhook and remove cables; unplug unit and remove from car.
STEP 2: remove two 10mm nuts and remove bracket from ASR unit.
STEP 3: Remove two torx (cannot remember size, sorry) from back of ASR unit located under cable slots.
STEP 4: Remove clip holding wheels onto the shaft. Use a bent pick to get under a few fingers to slide it off. After this you can remove plastic cable wheel and main cable wheel from the rest of the unit.
!!Mark upright position of cable wheels to ensure you know for the next step!!
STEP 5: You will now be looking at the main, alulimum cable wheel. this wheel has a top and bottom "****". We will now be removing the BOTTOM ****. I used a small sawzaw bladed handsaw to do this, file afterwards to clean it up a bit.
STEP 5: Thats it! Reassemble the two wheels (bend fingers of clip back down flat before putting it back on!), cable housing and bracket and re-install, plug in, and enjoy not getting your foot raped every time a smidge of slip happens!
I did not take pictures at the time, so if someone NEEDS them, I will pull my unit apart again and take them. otherwise enjoy!!
NOTE: this will keep the ASR unit from ripping your foot off the gas, but without tuning you will still have torque loss from timing reduction built into your PCM. I haven't tossed stock values in to see what its like, but I can assume its a lot better than what you had.
I have found a way to keep the ASR unit plugged in, still on, and "Low trac" still pops up, but I'm blowing tires off rims without my foot being rejected!
The mod is so simple and as soon as you get far enough, you may even feel stupid for never looking, I did.
WHY THIS WORKS: The ASR unit has a cam-like gear that is geared for high torque. the center of this gear is hollow, and in this hollowed space lies a **** that sticks down from the main cable wheel and swings it back around. If this **** were to say, be gone, the high torque cam will still swing and hit its destination stop without interfering with the cable wheel, thus still creating its electrical load to keep from a system fault.
STEP 1: unhook and remove cables; unplug unit and remove from car.
STEP 2: remove two 10mm nuts and remove bracket from ASR unit.
STEP 3: Remove two torx (cannot remember size, sorry) from back of ASR unit located under cable slots.
STEP 4: Remove clip holding wheels onto the shaft. Use a bent pick to get under a few fingers to slide it off. After this you can remove plastic cable wheel and main cable wheel from the rest of the unit.
!!Mark upright position of cable wheels to ensure you know for the next step!!
STEP 5: You will now be looking at the main, alulimum cable wheel. this wheel has a top and bottom "****". We will now be removing the BOTTOM ****. I used a small sawzaw bladed handsaw to do this, file afterwards to clean it up a bit.
STEP 5: Thats it! Reassemble the two wheels (bend fingers of clip back down flat before putting it back on!), cable housing and bracket and re-install, plug in, and enjoy not getting your foot raped every time a smidge of slip happens!
I did not take pictures at the time, so if someone NEEDS them, I will pull my unit apart again and take them. otherwise enjoy!!
NOTE: this will keep the ASR unit from ripping your foot off the gas, but without tuning you will still have torque loss from timing reduction built into your PCM. I haven't tossed stock values in to see what its like, but I can assume its a lot better than what you had.
Last edited by crowbarmaster; 05-09-2015 at 03:28 PM. Reason: Forgot that stupid clip.
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Why not just turn it off with the factory button? I'm not sure that I see the purpose for this, unless you're just trying to avoid having to switch it off every time you start the engine.
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I haven't gone about it yet, but the PCM as said before has tables for spark timing retard on slip. I expect with some tweaking, i can still end up with ASR that backs off power, without leaving me with nothing and throwing me in a bad spot.
My main goal with this was to lessen the number of times a week i stumble off stop signs because I can't seem to remember that damn SWITCH!
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Just think - ASR was a $450 option new!! If I had ordered one of these cars new, that box would definitely NOT have been checked! Mine has it, but it's just habit now to always turn it off after the car starts. Haven't forgotten yet, as I'm used to seeing the yellow ASR OFF light.
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Never had ASR "rip my foot off the gas". Seems like just another post of someone defeating a safety feature. Lets hope you never sell this car to someone who is unaware you've done this.
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I guess after 9 years of ownership It's second nature to start the car and turn off ASR. Hitting the button 10k times is faster than removing the feature all together. Credit for finding a solution though.
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Hmm, seems if it was on for me it would always be enough to take me from 100% to 0% tps rather abruptly. If this has never happened to you then you sir, have a heavier foot than I. This said I've found a sudden decelleration after a small bit of slip to be less than " safe" in poor conditions. Also, without tuning, ASR still hasn't been fully defeated, as the PCM will still pull timing after some slip, just like a lot of other GMs on the road.
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Thank you sir, I posted this only because, as seen above, all other options come at some sort of cost. Either a trip to pick up a pack of resistors (From the boonies, its gonna guzzle some gas) or ordering cables or a delete box vs nothing but common tools and minor labor. When your saving for a vortec 6.0 and a few parts to slap in it, you tend to save a few bucks when you can.