LS1 swap, Carbed vs Fuel Injected
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LS1 swap, Carbed vs Fuel Injected
This is for a LS1/T56 swap in a 2nd gen Trans Am.
Well I'm getting to the point where my LS1 swap will need a fuel system soon and have been thinking if I should stay fuel injected or go carbed. I've thought about a few reasons on why I should go carbed, but I would like to hear from the guys that have done it. A carb setup would eliminate a big headache from modifying the wiring harness that the FI set up would require, fuel system would be much simpler, and a good tank won't cost $1200. Not only that, if I want something better than an LS1 intake its at least another $300 for an LS6 or up to $900 for fast 102 plus injectors, TB, fuel rails then tune.
So to me it seems that a carb set up is the way to go, $700 for the Edelbrock Performer along with the ignition module plus a decent carb would put me around $1200 to $1300 and just a stock replacement tank with a decent fuel pump should get me going.
So what do you guys think? Am I looking at this the wrong way or is this the simpler way to go. Am I missing something that should steer me awy from a carb set up? I would have love to have fuel injected in an old school car but eliminating a harness, a pcm, and an expensive fuel system its enough to consider going carbed.
Well I'm getting to the point where my LS1 swap will need a fuel system soon and have been thinking if I should stay fuel injected or go carbed. I've thought about a few reasons on why I should go carbed, but I would like to hear from the guys that have done it. A carb setup would eliminate a big headache from modifying the wiring harness that the FI set up would require, fuel system would be much simpler, and a good tank won't cost $1200. Not only that, if I want something better than an LS1 intake its at least another $300 for an LS6 or up to $900 for fast 102 plus injectors, TB, fuel rails then tune.
So to me it seems that a carb set up is the way to go, $700 for the Edelbrock Performer along with the ignition module plus a decent carb would put me around $1200 to $1300 and just a stock replacement tank with a decent fuel pump should get me going.
So what do you guys think? Am I looking at this the wrong way or is this the simpler way to go. Am I missing something that should steer me awy from a carb set up? I would have love to have fuel injected in an old school car but eliminating a harness, a pcm, and an expensive fuel system its enough to consider going carbed.
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stick with efi, theres no need to ever spend 1200 on a fuel tank unless you have the extra cash laying around. rock auto has them for a pretty fair price. or mod your stock tank and use a $100 walbro pump and a vetter fpr. easy.
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I'm an EFI convert all the way. The carb vs. EFI debate is really simple to me and some of the first things I think about are:
Am I trying to keep a traditional look, am I limited by class rules, what is the main purpose of the car, what are my realistic power goals and / or do I have all the carb stuff laying about?
If you can get the entire engine, harness, accessories and PCM in one shot going EFI is a VERY simple and inexpensive affair. You get factory reliability, simple operation and don't need to mess with tuning, cold starts, etc. I'm not saying you can't spend a ton of cash going EFI, but you could also spend a ton of cash running a carb. You don't need braided lines, external regulators and billet fuel rails or a new tank for your fuel delivery system, you just need to shop smart and not fall into the "bigger is better" mentality.
Am I trying to keep a traditional look, am I limited by class rules, what is the main purpose of the car, what are my realistic power goals and / or do I have all the carb stuff laying about?
If you can get the entire engine, harness, accessories and PCM in one shot going EFI is a VERY simple and inexpensive affair. You get factory reliability, simple operation and don't need to mess with tuning, cold starts, etc. I'm not saying you can't spend a ton of cash going EFI, but you could also spend a ton of cash running a carb. You don't need braided lines, external regulators and billet fuel rails or a new tank for your fuel delivery system, you just need to shop smart and not fall into the "bigger is better" mentality.
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This is for a LS1/T56 swap in a 2nd gen Trans Am.
Well I'm getting to the point where my LS1 swap will need a fuel system soon and have been thinking if I should stay fuel injected or go carbed. I've thought about a few reasons on why I should go carbed, but I would like to hear from the guys that have done it. A carb setup would eliminate a big headache from modifying the wiring harness that the FI set up would require, fuel system would be much simpler, and a good tank won't cost $1200. Not only that, if I want something better than an LS1 intake its at least another $300 for an LS6 or up to $900 for fast 102 plus injectors, TB, fuel rails then tune.
So to me it seems that a carb set up is the way to go, $700 for the Edelbrock Performer along with the ignition module plus a decent carb would put me around $1200 to $1300 and just a stock replacement tank with a decent fuel pump should get me going.
So what do you guys think? Am I looking at this the wrong way or is this the simpler way to go. Am I missing something that should steer me awy from a carb set up? I would have love to have fuel injected in an old school car but eliminating a harness, a pcm, and an expensive fuel system its enough to consider going carbed.
Well I'm getting to the point where my LS1 swap will need a fuel system soon and have been thinking if I should stay fuel injected or go carbed. I've thought about a few reasons on why I should go carbed, but I would like to hear from the guys that have done it. A carb setup would eliminate a big headache from modifying the wiring harness that the FI set up would require, fuel system would be much simpler, and a good tank won't cost $1200. Not only that, if I want something better than an LS1 intake its at least another $300 for an LS6 or up to $900 for fast 102 plus injectors, TB, fuel rails then tune.
So to me it seems that a carb set up is the way to go, $700 for the Edelbrock Performer along with the ignition module plus a decent carb would put me around $1200 to $1300 and just a stock replacement tank with a decent fuel pump should get me going.
So what do you guys think? Am I looking at this the wrong way or is this the simpler way to go. Am I missing something that should steer me awy from a carb set up? I would have love to have fuel injected in an old school car but eliminating a harness, a pcm, and an expensive fuel system its enough to consider going carbed.
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This is for a LS1/T56 swap in a 2nd gen Trans Am.
Well I'm getting to the point where my LS1 swap will need a fuel system soon and have been thinking if I should stay fuel injected or go carbed. I've thought about a few reasons on why I should go carbed, but I would like to hear from the guys that have done it. A carb setup would eliminate a big headache from modifying the wiring harness that the FI set up would require, fuel system would be much simpler, and a good tank won't cost $1200. Not only that, if I want something better than an LS1 intake its at least another $300 for an LS6 or up to $900 for fast 102 plus injectors, TB, fuel rails then tune.
So to me it seems that a carb set up is the way to go, $700 for the Edelbrock Performer along with the ignition module plus a decent carb would put me around $1200 to $1300 and just a stock replacement tank with a decent fuel pump should get me going.
So what do you guys think? Am I looking at this the wrong way or is this the simpler way to go. Am I missing something that should steer me awy from a carb set up? I would have love to have fuel injected in an old school car but eliminating a harness, a pcm, and an expensive fuel system its enough to consider going carbed.
Well I'm getting to the point where my LS1 swap will need a fuel system soon and have been thinking if I should stay fuel injected or go carbed. I've thought about a few reasons on why I should go carbed, but I would like to hear from the guys that have done it. A carb setup would eliminate a big headache from modifying the wiring harness that the FI set up would require, fuel system would be much simpler, and a good tank won't cost $1200. Not only that, if I want something better than an LS1 intake its at least another $300 for an LS6 or up to $900 for fast 102 plus injectors, TB, fuel rails then tune.
So to me it seems that a carb set up is the way to go, $700 for the Edelbrock Performer along with the ignition module plus a decent carb would put me around $1200 to $1300 and just a stock replacement tank with a decent fuel pump should get me going.
So what do you guys think? Am I looking at this the wrong way or is this the simpler way to go. Am I missing something that should steer me awy from a carb set up? I would have love to have fuel injected in an old school car but eliminating a harness, a pcm, and an expensive fuel system its enough to consider going carbed.
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There is a carburated LS section on this site. You might want to head over there for more reading about carb'd set ups.
Here is recent thread on the same topic
https://ls1tech.com/forums/carburete...p-my-mind.html
Here is recent thread on the same topic
https://ls1tech.com/forums/carburete...p-my-mind.html
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So been thinking about it all day and considering that my motor is complete along with harness and pcm, I think the way to go its fuel injected. I know I won't get nearly enough money selling the ls1 intake, injectors, maf and pcm to buy the performer and MSD box, then I would need the carb. So instead of buying the carb setup I might just buy the FI tank and the lines needed for the fuel system. It might take more time this way, but at least I'll have the way I wanted it to begin with.
So Rock Auto for fuel tanks, need to check that out.
So Rock Auto for fuel tanks, need to check that out.
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So been thinking about it all day and considering that my motor is complete along with harness and pcm, I think the way to go its fuel injected. I know I won't get nearly enough money selling the ls1 intake, injectors, maf and pcm to buy the performer and MSD box, then I would need the carb. So instead of buying the carb setup I might just buy the FI tank and the lines needed for the fuel system. It might take more time this way, but at least I'll have the way I wanted it to begin with.
So Rock Auto for fuel tanks, need to check that out.
So Rock Auto for fuel tanks, need to check that out.
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definitely in for more info as well..
i had been planning on an edelbrock intake topped with a FAST ez efi... not the cheapest route, but covers the tb/inj/computer(tune)/pump/etc, and retains that 'look' factor.
that said I have a holley 650 sitting 2 feet from the car...
i had been planning on an edelbrock intake topped with a FAST ez efi... not the cheapest route, but covers the tb/inj/computer(tune)/pump/etc, and retains that 'look' factor.
that said I have a holley 650 sitting 2 feet from the car...
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definitely in for more info as well..
i had been planning on an edelbrock intake topped with a FAST ez efi... not the cheapest route, but covers the tb/inj/computer(tune)/pump/etc, and retains that 'look' factor.
that said I have a holley 650 sitting 2 feet from the car...
i had been planning on an edelbrock intake topped with a FAST ez efi... not the cheapest route, but covers the tb/inj/computer(tune)/pump/etc, and retains that 'look' factor.
that said I have a holley 650 sitting 2 feet from the car...
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Today I grabbed the harness for the engine and plugged it in to all the connections, piece of cake. This is what had me worried and wondering if I should go carbed, but that's taken care of. All I need to do is figure out what to do with the rest of the harness, anybody know? Its the one that plugs into the engine harness, will that be needed?