Anyone running a 200-4r? Got a few questions.
08-09-2012, 12:31 PM
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Anyone running a 200-4r? Got a few questions. Well I did my homework, got everything together, and attempted to bolt my engine and trans together today. It was a failure. I got the trans bolted up, but the torque converter is a ways off of the flexplate. The engine is an LQ4, with the 4l80 flexplate. From what I understood, the 4l80 flexplate was spaced away enough to bolt to an older style torque converter. The flexplate is a dual bolt pattern. The outer bolt holes are raised, but don't line up with the torque converter bolt holes. The inner bolt holes are flat against the flex plate. The raised holes look to be a good half inch away from the converter, with the inner flat holes further than that. I can pull the converter out of the trans and make it meet up to the flexplate, but I don't feel comfortable pulling it out that far if I can avoid it.
Anyway, what flexplate are you 2004r guys running? Did you have to pull your converter out any to get it to meet the flexplate?
Anyway, what flexplate are you 2004r guys running? Did you have to pull your converter out any to get it to meet the flexplate?
08-09-2012, 01:22 PM
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200..... Of all the people I know running this trans, on ANY engine, they all took a huge dump..... this low HP motors, the only one that kind of lived had a ton of money thrown at it, not even worth the effort you are going thru... my .o2
08-09-2012, 01:35 PM
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I did a lot of research on the trans before I went this route. It is a Bowtie Overdrive, rated for 500hp, and warranted against defects and failure. It is far from a stock trans. Pretty much everything on the inside is billet, hardened, or heavier duty than stock.
08-09-2012, 09:29 PM
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There are lots of 200R4's running mid nines in 3700# GN's, just mosey on over to turbobuick.com. I have two of these trannies in my cars (neither close to the 9's) and have never had a lick of trouble from either. With the standard crank, you will need the spacer, flat flexplate, and 6 new (longer) bolts. Also plan on wallowing out the converter bolt holes in the 'plate.
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I just used the same setup that was on the LQ4 with the 4l80. I am assuming it is the standard crank since it's an 05 model LQ4. It looked like there was a small spacer built onto the flat flexplate. I will take it back off and make sure there is a spacer on it. Looks like I need to remove it anyway to elongate the bolt holes. Thanks for the input guys.
08-10-2012, 08:00 PM
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I just used the same setup that was on the LQ4 with the 4l80. I am assuming it is the standard crank since it's an 05 model LQ4. It looked like there was a small spacer built onto the flat flexplate. I will take it back off and make sure there is a spacer on it. Looks like I need to remove it anyway to elongate the bolt holes. Thanks for the input guys.
08-10-2012, 09:21 PM
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I will double check, but I am almost positive it has the standard crank. It was supposed to be from an 05 express van. I know it had the 317 heads (01? and up) and the harness had blue and green connectors (03 and up). I will check and see just how far it sticks past the rear cover and make sure though.
08-10-2012, 09:23 PM
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Bad info here. A 200-4R can be built to hold quite a bit of horse power without spending a ton of money on it. You just have to know where to spend the money that do invest into them. Mine is 6 years old and has always been abused and still works great.
08-10-2012, 09:53 PM
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Glad you did all your research, I helped a friend setup a streetrod with one of those Bowtie transmissions, we used the tailshaft houing from the Bowtie on my empty mockup case, it had residue in it like you find in your solvent tank...it has only failed on him once so far, so he is setting while his tranny is in on warranty, hope you have better luck with yours....
08-10-2012, 10:31 PM
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Glad you did all your research, I helped a friend setup a streetrod with one of those Bowtie transmissions, we used the tailshaft houing from the Bowtie on my empty mockup case, it had residue in it like you find in your solvent tank...it has only failed on him once so far, so he is setting while his tranny is in on warranty, hope you have better luck with yours....
08-12-2012, 11:48 AM
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I will do that. I have read a lot (after I bought my trans) about Jakes Performance that's a sponsor on here and a few other forums. I will probably hit him up if I have any problems after the warranty runs out.
08-12-2012, 12:16 PM
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There are lots of 200R4's running mid nines in 3700# GN's, just mosey on over to turbobuick.com. I have two of these trannies in my cars (neither close to the 9's) and have never had a lick of trouble from either. With the standard crank, you will need the spacer, flat flexplate, and 6 new (longer) bolts. Also plan on wallowing out the converter bolt holes in the 'plate.
08-12-2012, 08:33 PM
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My son and I actually drove up to Jake's and watched while he built the 200R4 for my Maverick. The one in my 11 second S-10 is much more stressed and much less built (it only has a Bruce Toelle 'WE4' shift kit) yet has managed to live for 10 years behind 20+ pounds of boost.