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Old 03-05-2013, 01:13 PM
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vazfx16 - coach me on how you did those photos ^. I am an old dog and I want to learn new tricks!

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Yeah, those design illustrations are the bees knees!
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Originally Posted by 1970 ls_c10
interesting car for this swap! want to see it finished!
This will be my Daily Driver, so it must be finished
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Originally Posted by Sparkydog
vazfx16 - coach me on how you did those photos ^. I am an old dog and I want to learn new tricks!

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It is easy if you have photoshop:
1. Use tripod (to keep this in alignment)
2. Photograph the object (in this case a crossmember)
3. Change wait you want in with the subject (I added the oilpane)
4. Photograph
5. Bring into Photoshop and add both images to the same document
6. Have a layer of each image
7. Reduce opacity on the image that you want to ghosted out
8. save as the format you want
9. I then drew the red bracing in with Illustrator, but it can be done in Photoshop to, just a bit more work to draw in and stroke
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See, and you were saying how tough it is to document a build as it goes…

It comes naturally once brain gets sucked into the “tornado” of the project (always seems to be in the back of your mind).
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Originally Posted by LQ4-E39
See, and you were saying how tough it is to document a build as it goes…

It comes naturally once brain gets sucked into the “tornado” of the project (always seems to be in the back of your mind).
Your right. The big thing is to take the camera out to the garage with you. I am finding that taking lots of shots will help my memory also.

Thanks for the encouragement.
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The next thing I think I realize I may be able to do is to use the BMW ac compressor. I have not tried to fit the LS1 pulley yet, but that is next. If I can do that it will save some time on dough on getting ac lines made. I can then make my own PS lines.
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I made a metal yard run yesterday, so I am ready to start making hard parts.

I maybe be able to do the first test fit today. Yesterday was spent on GTO oilpan swap. Sounds easier that it was. Photos to come.
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come on over to silviav8.com, there are a few front sump pans we have figured out cause the 240sx uses them too.

somewhere there is a thread with comparisons.
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Originally Posted by brewster240
come on over to silviav8.com, there are a few front sump pans we have figured out cause the 240sx uses them too.

somewhere there is a thread with comparisons.
Will do
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I am surprised how clean and fresh the inside of the pan was. Lots of clean oil too.


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About to do the first test fit. LS1, meet BMW E34 5 series Touring.


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Consummation of a long relationship to come.

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Wait! The stock mounts and manifold wants to occupy the same location as that giant steering box. Next, I need to remove the motor mounts and driver's side manifold then see how much space I have, then I will start making things.
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BMW m60 compared to GM LS1. I am surprised that they are so close in size. I was under the impression the the LS1 would be quite a bit smaller. Based on research, the LS1 is 40lbs lighter than the BMW M60. A rough measurement says that the M60 might be about 2 inches longer and about 2 inches wider.
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can't wait till it's done!!
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Great comparison picture.
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Tight fit, but I was able to get the bellhousing to clear the rear crossmember.

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Using my hightech organic measuring device to determine how low the engine must go to fit under the hood.

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Using all surface to solve problems. I used some dry erase book paint on the cabinets so that I can use them a writing surface. Works well...

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Here is how much I must notch the crossmember.

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Here is where the notch will be.

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Prepping for the brace.

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Welding on he backside of the crossmember bracing. Welding under here was difficult because oil inside of the crossmember would get heated and seep out. Then the seeping oil would contaminate the weld. It took a long time to clean up the oil enough to get a suitable weld.

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Notched. Now to box and reinforce, but first I must test fit the engine for a third time.

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Good work brother from another mother. Looking forward to more...subscribed.

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The notched xmember worked


The radiator fit.

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Boxing in xmember.

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Xmember done. Next motor mounts.

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