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Old 11-19-2014, 04:02 PM
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2009 5.3/6L80E E38, came from a 2wd Silverado. I am putting it into a 4x4 Wagoneer.

Here's the wires I am having issues with:

#1 ) Underhood fuse block, X2 connector, as seen in the picture here:
http://lt1swap.com/pictures/4_underhood%20fuse%20block%20connector.jpg

There is a large purple wire on the far right side, I'm not sure what the pin is labeled as (F1? G1?). This wire goes out to a single wired connector - what is this connector and do I need it?

#2 ) Underhood fuse block, X2 connector, same one as above.

There is a green wire in position D4. It goes out to a 2-pin connector, which the other pin is a ground wire. What is this connector/circuit, and do I need it?

#3) Underhood fuse block, X2 connector, same one as above.

There is a PINK/WHITE wire in position N4. It goes to the plug on the transmission, pin #12. Is this a key on 12v+? Battery 12v+? Something else?

#4) Underhood fuse block, X2 connector, same one as above.

There is a RED/WHITE wire in position N3. It goes to the plug on the transmission, pin #4. Is this a key on 12v+? Battery 12v+? Something else?

#5) ECM X1 connector, Pin # 2, 4WD LOW - this wire is NOT in my harness, I assume because my donor was a 2WD. However, I am installing this into a 4WD vehicle and need it to know when I am in 4WD LOW. Do I need to add a pin/wire in this terminal? If so, where does it terminate? Does it go to a Transfer case switch that sends signal when in 4-Low? I am running an NP241-C transfer case, manually shifted - I believe it has a indicator switch and may have others.
Also, does this need to be modified in the ECM/TCM tune?

#6) ECM X1 connector, Pin # 3, AXLE SWITCH SIGNAL - this wire is NOT in my harness. Does it need to be added? Does anything need to be modified in my ECM/TCM tune for it?

#7) ECM X1 connector, Pin #18 Accessory Wake-Up Serial Data. Ive seen pinout how-tos that say to remove this. Do you tune the ECM/TCM so that it is not looking for this circuit? I've read that removing this can cause no-start issues.

#8) ECM X1 connector, Pin #27, circuit 2501, Tan wire, HIGH SPEED GMLAN SERIAL (-), goes to trans connector pin #11. Is this for tap up/tap down shifting, downshift (-)?

#9) ECM X1 connector, Pin #28, circuit 2500, Tan/Blk wire, HIGH SPEED GMLAN SERIAL (+), goes to trans connector pin #15. Is this for tap up/tap down shifting, upshift (+)?

#10) ECM X1 connector, Pin #'s 37, 38, & 41 - these are MAF wiring circuits. LT1SWAP.COM pinout has 37,38,41 as going to location D,E,A respectively on the MAF connector. My harness has them going to location B, A, C respectively. Is this going to be an issue? Is there a specific MAF sensor I need? (I do not yet have a MAF - need to buy one, not sure which yet)

#11) ECM X1 connector, Pin #57, missing - I do not have a vehicle speed sensor circuit in my harness. Is this because I have a 6L80E (VSS is inside trans)? Is this wiring likely in the trans connector?

#12) ECM X1 connector, Pin #59, powertrain relay control. LT1SWAP.COM pinout highlights say to remove this. Do you tune the ECM/TCM so that it is not looking for this circuit? I've read that removing this can cause no-start issues.

#13) ECM X2 connector, Pin #'s 43, 53, 58 - these are MAP wiring circuits.dumLT1SWAP.COMdumpinout has 43,53,58 as going to location C,A,B respectively on the MAP connector. My harness has them going to location 1, 2, 3 respectively. Is this going to be an issue? The MAP sensor installed is the one that came with the truck/engine/wiring harness. I Just wasn't sure if this would effect you on the tuning side (different MAP sensor may make a difference)

#14) X109 Connector, location B5 - black/white wire, I assume it's ground - Needed?
#15) X109 connector, location B6 - dark blue wire going to a 2-prong connector. What is this, and do I need it?

Seems like a lot. Otherwise, I've got the wiring done.

Any input appreciated
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If you can't find these pin outs, you can subscribe to all data and have access to all the connector views and schematics.
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Item 1 Violet wire is to the start solenoid on starter
Pin 4 on trans is b+
Pin 9 and 12 are ignition
x1-59 is the output to the powertrain relay coil. we use it as intended for one button starting
x1, 18,19 are used as key in
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#8 & #9 are not tap shift, they are communication bus between modules.

#5 correct, #6 the ECM/TCM is probably expecting that to be valid. Never done a 4x4 but I would assume you'll need to simulate the axle switch for proper 4low operation.

#7 Leave unless there is a valid reason to remove. If you ever decide to integrate BCM or other power mode sensitive modules will be needed.

#11 may be easier to to use ECM X1-71 (replicated TOSS) to get VSS. X1-57 is usually a 128k output not 4k.
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Excellent info - this should get me pointed in the right direction.

I have searched and searched, and can't find much info on Gen IV 4x4 swaps.

Do any of yall have a source or website that may have more info I can read and search through? I Hate having to post everytime I have a little question, especially when it is one I'm confident has been solved before (but I can't find in a search).

Thanks again
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I incorporated your answers, and added some I found on ALLDATA (Thanks for the heads up on ALLDATA, BTW! There's a coupon code, FALLDIY, saves $6 on a year).

I'll try to apply these and see what happens. I'm sure I'll have more questions later.

For now, I am typing these here and posting them so I can reference them later as needed.

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by ShawnQ
#1 ) Underhood fuse block, X2 connector, as seen in the picture here:
http://lt1swap.com/pictures/4_underh...0connector.jpg

There is a large purple wire on the far right side, I'm not sure what the pin is labeled as (F1? G1?). This wire goes out to a single wired connector - what is this connector and do I need it?

This is Starter Solenoid Crank Voltage, circuit #6. Connector plugs into starter

#2 ) Underhood fuse block, X2 connector, same one as above.

There is a green wire in position D4. It goes out to a 2-pin connector, which the other pin is a ground wire. What is this connector/circuit, and do I need it?

This is AC Compressor clutch, circuit #59. Connector plugs into AC Compressor and has a ground wire also attached

#3) Underhood fuse block, X2 connector, same one as above.

There is a PINK/WHITE wire in position N4. It goes to the plug on the transmission, pin #12. Is this a key on 12v+? Battery 12v+? Something else?

This is an ignition voltage wire, key on + voltage, circuit #2139. Connector plugs into transmission connector, pin #12

#4) Underhood fuse block, X2 connector, same one as above.

There is a RED/WHITE wire in position N3. It goes to the plug on the transmission, pin #4. Is this a key on 12v+? Battery 12v+? Something else?

This is a battery positive wire, battery + voltage, circuit #1840. Connector plugs into transmission connector, pin #4

#5) ECM X1 connector, Pin # 2, 4WD LOW - this wire is NOT in my harness, I assume because my donor was a 2WD. However, I am installing this into a 4WD vehicle and need it to know when I am in 4WD LOW. Do I need to add a pin/wire in this terminal? If so, where does it terminate? Does it go to a Transfer case switch that sends signal when in 4-Low? I am running an NP241-C transfer case, manually shifted - I believe it has a indicator switch and may have others.
Also, does this need to be modified in the ECM/TCM tune?

This is a 4WD LOW Signal Wire, circuit #1694.Waiting to figure out how to incorporate this. It may need to be added to my harness and incorporated into the NP241C transfer case

#6) ECM X1 connector, Pin # 3, AXLE SWITCH SIGNAL - this wire is NOT in my harness. Does it need to be added? Does anything need to be modified in my ECM/TCM tune for it?

This is a AXLE SWITCH SIGNAL WIRE, circuit #1695.Waiting to figure out how to incorporate this. It may need to be added to my harness and incorporated into the NP241C transfer case

#7) ECM X1 connector, Pin #18 Accessory Wake-Up Serial Data. Ive seen pinout how-tos that say to remove this. Do you tune the ECM/TCM so that it is not looking for this circuit? I've read that removing this can cause no-start issues.

This is a SERIAL WAKEUP DATA Wire, circuit #5985, not required unless you use a BCM

#8) ECM X1 connector, Pin #27, circuit 2501, Tan wire, HIGH SPEED GMLAN SERIAL (-), goes to trans connector pin #11. Is this for tap up/tap down shifting, downshift (-)?

This is the serial data chain and should run from ECM=TCM=BCM=DLC. It should terminate at the OBDII port (and MAY need a 120ohm resistor, although I don't think so)

#9) ECM X1 connector, Pin #28, circuit 2500, Tan/Blk wire, HIGH SPEED GMLAN SERIAL (+), goes to trans connector pin #15. Is this for tap up/tap down shifting, upshift (+)?

This is the serial data chain and should run from ECM=TCM=BCM=DLC. It should terminate at the OBDII port (and MAY need a 120ohm resistor, although I don't think so)

#10) ECM X1 connector, Pin #'s 37, 38, & 41 - these are MAF wiring circuits. LT1SWAP.COM pinout has 37,38,41 as going to location D,E,A respectively on the MAF connector. My harness has them going to location B, A, C respectively. Is this going to be an issue? Is there a specific MAF sensor I need? (I do not yet have a MAF - need to buy one, not sure which yet)

According to ALLDATA, for a 2009 truck, my wiring is correct. LT1Swap.com wiring may have been for a different vehicle (hence different pin locations). MAF from a truck should be just fine. Verify wiring pins on MAF when received.

#11) ECM X1 connector, Pin #57, missing - I do not have a vehicle speed sensor circuit in my harness. Is this because I have a 6L80E (VSS is inside trans)? Is this wiring likely in the trans connector?

Waiting to verify need and whether or not it is indeed a part of the Trans

#12) ECM X1 connector, Pin #59, powertrain relay control. LT1SWAP.COM pinout highlights say to remove this. Do you tune the ECM/TCM so that it is not looking for this circuit? I've read that removing this can cause no-start issues.

This is used for 1-touch start/push button start. I don't intend to use this, but will leave just in case I add later.

#13) ECM X2 connector, Pin #'s 43, 53, 58 - these are MAP wiring circuits. LT1SWAP.COM pinout has 43,53,58 as going to location C,A,B respectively on the MAP connector. My harness has them going to location 1, 2, 3 respectively. Is this going to be an issue? The MAP sensor installed is the one that came with the truck/engine/wiring harness. I Just wasn't sure if this would effect you on the tuning side (different MAP sensor may make a difference)

According to ALLDATA, my MAP sensor is wired correctly

#14) X109 Connector, location B5 - black/white wire, I assume it's ground - Needed?

This is a ground wire and can be used or removed.
#15) X109 connector, location B6 - dark blue wire going to a 2-prong connector. What is this, and do I need it?
This is the AC Low pressure sensor, circuit#204. In 4x4 applications, B6 is circuit #1553 Motor Control Orange wire (I assume to control motorized shift Transfer Case).
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Does anyone have the pinout for the X2 connector, as well as the interior 40 pin connector (it's only using 32). I have a 2013 LC9 5.3 and am in the same boat. There is nowhere near the info on the gen4 stuff like is available on the gen3. Anything can help. Thanks
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Alldata should have what you need.
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