TW: How much would you pay for a swap kit for a 240sx
12-19-2007, 03:48 PM
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TW: How much would you pay for a swap kit for a 240sx I'm thinking about putting together a swap kit for an s14. Due to the fact that a good portion of the installation time and money is taken up to develop the transmission and engine mounts I would provide both of these to basically allow the drop the motor right in. The components would be designed with extremely durabilty and quality - to withstand the abuse for every day driving and also in competition. This kit will not require any modifications to the firewall. The only exception is that the transmission shifter opening for will need to be trimmed a bit (slight trim will not adversely effect car rigidity).
I understand a lot of 240 owners are on a tight budget and the thought of an LS1 swap into a 240 is a bit intimidating. So, within reason, what would you guys pay to have something like this made? Again, this is for the subframe and transmission mount ONLY. Other things like driveshaft, headers, and other misc things would need to be tackled by yourself or a local fabricator/installer (although i could develop these as well).
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I understand a lot of 240 owners are on a tight budget and the thought of an LS1 swap into a 240 is a bit intimidating. So, within reason, what would you guys pay to have something like this made? Again, this is for the subframe and transmission mount ONLY. Other things like driveshaft, headers, and other misc things would need to be tackled by yourself or a local fabricator/installer (although i could develop these as well).
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12-19-2007, 07:05 PM
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Sound slike hes going to mount the motor more forward and down. Also what are you going to provide in your kit?
If I was to make a kit it would consist of
Crossmember
Mounts (motor and Trans)
Custom lines
Clutch master with adapter plate
Slave fittings
Drive Shaft
P/S line
Headers (not sure which ones)
In the end it wouldnt be very cheap.
If I was to make a kit it would consist of
Crossmember
Mounts (motor and Trans)
Custom lines
Clutch master with adapter plate
Slave fittings
Drive Shaft
P/S line
Headers (not sure which ones)
In the end it wouldnt be very cheap.
12-19-2007, 07:49 PM
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I say do it up! See what you can do with it. The LS1 swap in a S chassis, is becoming very big. I know like 4-6 people doing them now..Offer it at a good price and people will buy it. Have them send you there crossmembers and you mod them etc.. Or add a core charge..
$1500 for a full kit would be nice.. ha
$1500 for a full kit would be nice.. ha
12-19-2007, 07:57 PM
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As somebody who is looking into LS2 into S14 swap, I see this going in couple of stages of progress.
Start off figuring out what exactly you need to order and getting it all from Summit. This would include headers, ps line, cmc and line and fittings and corvette fpr/filter deal.
Second part would be going to someone who can do the crossmember/mounts and headers all in one place. I don't think seperating this will work as motor mounts need to be fabed up first, than modfying the xmember as needed and finally messing around with headers.
Last thing would be tackling the wiring, while waiting for the mail tune to get back.
Since the misc lines can be handled by the end user, I would suggest maybe providing a list of PNs and/or simple how to. That would eliminate some of the details for the swap.
Getting a template for xmember modifications would be nice to include with the mounts. This will avoid BS with core charge, shipping delays etc. Keeping it simple would work the best and allow to keep the cost down.
HTH
Start off figuring out what exactly you need to order and getting it all from Summit. This would include headers, ps line, cmc and line and fittings and corvette fpr/filter deal.
Second part would be going to someone who can do the crossmember/mounts and headers all in one place. I don't think seperating this will work as motor mounts need to be fabed up first, than modfying the xmember as needed and finally messing around with headers.
Last thing would be tackling the wiring, while waiting for the mail tune to get back.
Since the misc lines can be handled by the end user, I would suggest maybe providing a list of PNs and/or simple how to. That would eliminate some of the details for the swap.
Getting a template for xmember modifications would be nice to include with the mounts. This will avoid BS with core charge, shipping delays etc. Keeping it simple would work the best and allow to keep the cost down.
HTH
12-19-2007, 11:29 PM
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I can do the wiring for a decent price if anyone is interested. I just need a KA harness and LS1 harness and Ill thin it and remove the CEL light stuff like VATS/O2s/Emissions if the ECU is sent.
12-20-2007, 01:14 AM
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As someone noted before I would provided a modified x-member and transmission mount. The kit will definitely be quality. Basically, it will be a copy of what I'm running right now as my daily driver / track event car. It's VERY strong, if it wasn't I wouldn't even think about selling it to the public.
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Sound slike hes going to mount the motor more forward and down. Also what are you going to provide in your kit?
If I was to make a kit it would consist of
Crossmember
Mounts (motor and Trans)
Custom lines
Clutch master with adapter plate
Slave fittings
Drive Shaft
P/S line
Headers (not sure which ones)
In the end it wouldnt be very cheap.
If I was to make a kit it would consist of
Crossmember
Mounts (motor and Trans)
Custom lines
Clutch master with adapter plate
Slave fittings
Drive Shaft
P/S line
Headers (not sure which ones)
In the end it wouldnt be very cheap.
12-20-2007, 01:21 AM
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I say do it up! See what you can do with it. The LS1 swap in a S chassis, is becoming very big. I know like 4-6 people doing them now..Offer it at a good price and people will buy it. Have them send you there crossmembers and you mod them etc.. Or add a core charge..
$1500 for a full kit would be nice.. ha
$1500 for a full kit would be nice.. ha
12-20-2007, 01:26 AM
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As somebody who is looking into LS2 into S14 swap, I see this going in couple of stages of progress.
Start off figuring out what exactly you need to order and getting it all from Summit. This would include headers, ps line, cmc and line and fittings and corvette fpr/filter deal.
Second part would be going to someone who can do the crossmember/mounts and headers all in one place. I don't think seperating this will work as motor mounts need to be fabed up first, than modfying the xmember as needed and finally messing around with headers.
Last thing would be tackling the wiring, while waiting for the mail tune to get back.
Since the misc lines can be handled by the end user, I would suggest maybe providing a list of PNs and/or simple how to. That would eliminate some of the details for the swap.
Getting a template for xmember modifications would be nice to include with the mounts. This will avoid BS with core charge, shipping delays etc. Keeping it simple would work the best and allow to keep the cost down.
HTH
Start off figuring out what exactly you need to order and getting it all from Summit. This would include headers, ps line, cmc and line and fittings and corvette fpr/filter deal.
Second part would be going to someone who can do the crossmember/mounts and headers all in one place. I don't think seperating this will work as motor mounts need to be fabed up first, than modfying the xmember as needed and finally messing around with headers.
Last thing would be tackling the wiring, while waiting for the mail tune to get back.
Since the misc lines can be handled by the end user, I would suggest maybe providing a list of PNs and/or simple how to. That would eliminate some of the details for the swap.
Getting a template for xmember modifications would be nice to include with the mounts. This will avoid BS with core charge, shipping delays etc. Keeping it simple would work the best and allow to keep the cost down.
HTH
12-20-2007, 02:40 AM
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That's one route. There's also other options such as a prewired plug 'n play harness. I'm currently using the factory oem harness which is also fine. The most trouble free way to get the swap done is to find a motorset with harness, motor, and transmission intact as a single unit.
12-20-2007, 10:57 AM
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its hard to put a number on it. is it soft mount? hard mount? etc
my mounts cost me a grand total of 50$ with welding wire and cutoff wheels. its hard to say "sure $1000 is a fair price for a mount kit" when so many of us know it really isnt THAT hard to make the mounts, just time consuming.
my mounts cost me a grand total of 50$ with welding wire and cutoff wheels. its hard to say "sure $1000 is a fair price for a mount kit" when so many of us know it really isnt THAT hard to make the mounts, just time consuming.
12-20-2007, 11:21 AM
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Time though is worth money. An average mechanic would run you 70+ an hour so how many hours do you think you put into your mounts and modding the crossmember.
What I would like to see is someone put in a tubular crossmember like the F Bodies can buy. That would almost fix clearance issues.
What I would like to see is someone put in a tubular crossmember like the F Bodies can buy. That would almost fix clearance issues.
12-20-2007, 07:50 PM
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Time though is worth money. An average mechanic would run you 70+ an hour so how many hours do you think you put into your mounts and modding the crossmember.
What I would like to see is someone put in a tubular crossmember like the F Bodies can buy. That would almost fix clearance issues.
What I would like to see is someone put in a tubular crossmember like the F Bodies can buy. That would almost fix clearance issues.
12-20-2007, 07:52 PM
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I assumed this a bit. I think one of the biggest reasons people tackle this is that installation is fun. Although, from showing my swap to various people they often ask if it was a kit and where they could find it.
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I was first thinking about having x-members made from my existing car, but iI'll definitely look into having a tubular x-member developed. It'll cost a bit to have it R&D'd but I think it could save everyone money in the long run. I'll keep everyone posted.