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Old 05-23-2008, 11:42 PM
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Question 1st Gen F-body with late Vette drive train.

I saw a wonderfull 06 Corvette full drive train on e-bay, with absolutely everything (brakes, suspension, gas tanks, electronics... you know what I'm talking about) which I'm about to click on the buy it now button.
But first I want to know if anyone has done a swap like that on a 1st generation F-body?
Just want some guide.
Old 05-23-2008, 11:53 PM
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A little pic, and a link of kind of like the job that has to be done. I guess.
http://www.retrorides.com/addanad/ma...ase-one&id=103
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Anyone think it's a bad idea at least...???
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I don't know exactly what you have in mind but most use the engine with a camaro type t56 and do away with the torque tube setup.There are lots of after market front ends,rear four link setups,even independent rear setups if thats what you want.C4 suspension would be another alternative .It would be pretty hard to use the complete c5 or c6 chassis setup under a 1st gen camaro or firebird.It probably can be done but I havent seen one,mabye someone else has.What exactly are you thinking about doing?
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Scour the net in search of Project 50/50. It is a 69 Camaro that a shop is building using a complete C5 drivetrain. The car was originally green. You might be able to find it on lateral-g.net if you look hard enough.
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Hell Civette did it with a civic hatchbach, anything is possible haha. I'm not a fan of the IRS. I couldnt get the power to transfer well with my 01 Z06. 465rwhp, 422rwtq, a broken output shaft, snapped 3rd gear synchro, and a cracked differential later (was even running the DTE brace) i ended up selling it. Now i'm building my dream car. It would be interesting to see especially if you're into road coarsing.
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Originally Posted by 1bdbrd
Scour the net in search of Project 50/50. It is a 69 Camaro that a shop is building using a complete C5 drivetrain. The car was originally green. You might be able to find it on lateral-g.net if you look hard enough.
http://www.t56kit.com/company/50/50/chassis/
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The Civette is pretty much what I was talking about, but project 50/50 is just like a glove. I saw the car on ATS but never got into the pics and details. Wow!!! What I had in mind was much complicated.
The only thing I don't like is loosing the rear seat, but I guess it's just not possible if I want to keep the drivetrain intact. "My friends will have to wait at the side of the road while I take each of them for a ride".
What I did like, is all the space in front of the engine. You can put some toys there, he he.
And yes, you may find awesome suspension kits and all the stuffs to make a 1st gen stick like a late sport car, but what is the fun on bolt on?
Thanks Shown MacAnanny for the info about 50/50, and thanks to philntx for the link.
I know newbies like me always bring back to the table old subjects that many might find boring, but it's always good to find people with the passion for cars and wiliness to help the new car guys.
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I saw an article that someone did a 67 camaro with c5 stuff and it was totally awesome.I say go for it.I have a 69 camaro that I wish drove as nice as my old C5.
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Project 50/50 is my car. What would you like to know about this process?

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Originally Posted by Teetoe_Jones
Project 50/50 is my car. What would you like to know about this process?

Tyler
Oh my...!!! Thanks Tyler! I got plenty of questions. First off: congratulations for taking the conversion word out of this universe with 50/50! Awsome job!!!!
By now I only have 2 questions:
1- Where can I see 50/50 finished? (if finished)
2- My car is at the body shop right now, but they has not done anything, I already stop any previous plan. My 2nd question is: where should we weld pipes, tubes or frames to be able to cut the floors and don't lose body shape/geometry?

Thanks Tyler for your wilness.

-Ruben-
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That is kind of a loaded question, but....

The way we did it was to remove the doors and add bracing across the doors and from side to side and weld in a box to keep the car from flexing as we cut out the trunk, floors and firewall.



The tube will need to be stretched 3.5 inches if a C5 based chassis is used, and the car will either need to be widened by a total of 4 inches, or the suspension needs to be narrowed and new cradles built to fit in the sheetmetal.
Notice the tires stick out even with the 1/4 panels:


To answer the 1st question- Car is still not finished. Here is as close as we got it before the disaster happened:




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Originally Posted by Teetoe_Jones

To answer the 1st question- Car is still not finished. Here is as close as we got it before the disaster happened:


Tyler
What happened to it?
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Originally Posted by AmericanMuscle313
What happened to it?
Yes what happened?

And my 3rd question is:
On the pic bellow, you can see from behind how far you got into the firewall, did you have any space problem placing the peddals?
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