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Old 07-11-2009, 03:38 AM
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Cool Rate my passes! Lots of cool footage, angles, and kills!

This is a follow up to these threads I've had going for awhile:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...need-help.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/drag-raci...ars-tires.html

I used some of the advice in here which steered me to buying some more parts, taking some off, and adjusting my setup, and I think it going me going in a better direction that I was. Not to mention a couple new P.B's for me and my buddy. I think I'm done for the year though. No point in beating on the car anymore to run the same or even worse. I'm not in the mood to buy anymore parts right now either. Next spring a new rear end yes, but not right now.

After watching this video and other than my times being so slow for my HP, what do you guys think about the following?

http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=8690

-Did my car ever even "hook"? I think it did.

-I don't have enough gear to get its fat *** outta hole really nice without bogging or spinning do I?

-And will 4.11's and my current 26" tire size fix my 4th gear powerband issue? I wanna wind it out.
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the vid was cool your 60' wasnt very good ranging from 2.0-2.3 if you can drop that your times will fall. but it does seem to be hookin but bogs and spins a little sometimes.
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60' is just not there. I would say at a minimum some tires with a sidewall, ie a 15" tire/wheel combo since you want to stay with the 26" tire.
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MPH is way low for that kind of horsepower.
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i defiantly would go with 4.10's minimum and an et drag dont mess with a radial trust me been there done that its very frustrating ! but i would concentrate on getting a rear end cause your 10 bolt will not like cutting 1.7's or better 60ft's for very long
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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
MPH is way low for that kind of horsepower.
its a little low but remember he's at 7800 D/A
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Congrats on the improvement! Nice videos too. What camera and mounts did you use?
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Why are you done for the year? Wait untill it cools down some and you will probably gain a few tenths and mph.
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I agree the 4.11 is the way to go. but,not an e/t drag...they don't hook on my car. M&H Racemaster cheeter slick 26x11.5x15. I cut 1.42 60's n/a with a m6 trans weighting 3,700lbs with me in it. www.intercotire.com or jegs and summit sells them too. They worked WAY better then m/t tires on my car. goodluck to ya.
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the vid was cool your 60' wasnt very good ranging from 2.0-2.3 if you can drop that your times will fall. but it does seem to be hookin but bogs and spins a little sometimes.
Yeah, I know it's not very good. My best at that track was a 1.84 I've pretty much been in the 1.9 range out there with the new setup. I'm hoping gears will also get the car moving easier and fix some of the bogging issues.

i defiantly would go with 4.10's minimum and an et drag dont mess with a radial trust me been there done that its very frustrating ! but i would concentrate on getting a rear end cause your 10 bolt will not like cutting 1.7's or better 60ft's for very long
The guy in the white Camaro that I raced in the vids, he has some et drags and can't hook with them. He's got a few 1.6's on et streets, the non radials. He wasn't hooking that well either on that particular day. His car usually launches alot harder and our 60's on that day were identical. He also has 3.73's. He's my best competition out there.

Congrats on the improvement! Nice videos too. What camera and mounts did you use?
The interior and exterior shots are done with a gopro. There's at least one sponsor selling them. They take higher quality but I had to render the movie smaller to host it.

Why are you done for the year? Wait untill it cools down some and you will probably gain a few tenths and mph.
Well, maybe, but I'm about to go to an NCOES school soon for 2 months. Besides I've gotten a 12.40 in better weather. My setup isn't optimized at all and I think my blower heatsoaks pretty bad. I probably won't have a 12 bolt and 4.10's until spring. Then I'm off to Iraq again.

I agree the 4.11 is the way to go. but,not an e/t drag...they don't hook on my car. M&H Racemaster cheeter slick 26x11.5x15. I cut 1.42 60's n/a with a m6 trans weighting 3,700lbs with me in it. www.intercotire.com or jegs and summit sells them too. They worked WAY better then m/t tires on my car. goodluck to ya.
Better than mickey's huh? I'll keep that in mind. I was thinking some et street non radials. I want to stick with a street legal tire but am always up for trying something different. Seems everyone is saying 4.11's though which I think would be a huge gain also.

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Originally Posted by 98Camarod
60' is just not there. I would say at a minimum some tires with a sidewall, ie a 15" tire/wheel combo since you want to stay with the 26" tire.

You gotta admit though, I did get the 18"s to hook. You can see them flatten. Trying to get my **** to hook has taught me alot, I just haven't gotten around to drag wheels yet.

There's such a fine line between bog and spin with my setup, it's very touchy. I've actually gotten my best 60's with a little spin which is back asswards.

Besides, watching an f-body just leave a new Z06 like that is priceless.

I'm probably going to go with some bogart welded RT's.

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Originally Posted by 69LT1Bird
MPH is way low for that kind of horsepower.
Those are corrected numbers. You should come to Colorado and give it a shot. I've spanked strip only race cars.

Man I can't wait for some good air.
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I cant believe you didnt cut lower 60s with the stuff you changed. In a couple vids it did seem to bog off teh line, just more learning what the car likes is needed. Whats teh elevation?
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2 things ur doin thats wrong

First is your letting off the clutch to damn fast and its bogging the car down especially when you race the vette you can see it.
Second is that you need a 4.10 in there for sure and that will help not bog so much
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Originally Posted by mrelectric03
i cant believe you didnt cut lower 60s with the stuff you changed. In a couple vids it did seem to bog off teh line, just more learning what the car likes is needed. Whats teh elevation?
7800 DA

About a mile actual.
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he is right, try to slip the clutch. an tire spin is what you want, really, just look at the top fuel dragsters or any other high horsepower car. you do want it to hook up, just not a %100. tire spin helps your car to move forward an keep you engine rpm's up where they need to be. big wheels are nice when you hook up, but they dont make you any faster. look at some of these DR guys that run 8's or 7's even, there is hardly any wheelies, they just flat out an go. believe it or not they have tire spin to. you probably need a high speed camera to see it, but they do.
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Originally Posted by joblo1978
7800 DA

About a mile actual.

holy crap! Is there even air that high? lol. I feel for you Colorado guys. You guys have double the work.

I thought a mile was 5,280ft?


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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
holy crap! Is there even air that high? lol. I feel for you Colorado guys. You guys have double the work.

I thought a mile was 5,280ft?


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It is. What I meant is were around an actual physical mile in elevation. But the DA on that particular day was 7800 approximately.
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Originally Posted by rudyzturbota
he is right, try to slip the clutch. an tire spin is what you want, really, just look at the top fuel dragsters or any other high horsepower car. you do want it to hook up, just not a %100. tire spin helps your car to move forward an keep you engine rpm's up where they need to be. big wheels are nice when you hook up, but they dont make you any faster. look at some of these DR guys that run 8's or 7's even, there is hardly any wheelies, they just flat out an go. believe it or not they have tire spin to. you probably need a high speed camera to see it, but they do.
I'm sure you want a little. But I'm also on a radial and not a bias ply which I'm sure is making it harder. Getting the proper amount of spin is touchy and difficult considering I have an 18" wheel. We get pretty shitty track prep there too.

Radials seem to be all the way on or all the way off to me.

I'm gonna go with some Hoosier QTP's on 15 Bogarts in the future.




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