vmax1500

I am looking into replacing my 700R4 with a glide before it grenades and takes my legs out It has already seen 147MPH in the 1/4 with a 150HP shot and I am planning on hitting it with a 250HP shot that will most likely put it over 150MPH...

The car should be down to 3000lbs without me... motor is a 427 ETP LS7... makes about 650HP at the crank... and I'll be spraying a 250HP hit through a TNT ring for now... plan to step up to a direct port later... I am getting custom converter that will be setup to run 90% of the time on the spray...

In bad air my car went 10.5@129 1.50 NA and 9.7@142 1.40 with 150HP hit... in great air it went 10.4@136 1.48 NA and 9.6@147 1.45 with 150HP hit... the converter I had with the 700R4 was way to tight running NA... it was even a little tight with the 150HP hit... My new converter should be better optimized to setup of my car... The car itself weighed 3150lbs with the A4... like I mentioned earlier, it will be ~3000lbs with the glide and some other weight reduction...

The car spends 99% of it's time at the track 1% on the street... I reallize it won't be a good daily driver

Rear end gear is 4.10, tire is a true 28x10.5 MT stiff sidewall slick...

I would love to hear some feedback from anyone who has been there and done that...

One last thing... will I need a longer or shorter driveshaft?

THANKS!!!

PS. Tranny is for sale

Lafngas98Z

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Ive got one on the bench waiting to go in my car. I am interested in hearing peoples experiences as well.

vmax1500

What are the details of your setup?

frcefed98

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NA$TY-TA has a glide in his turbo T/A. Drives it on the street too.

Real good guy. PM him and i'm sure he'll tell you about his glide and set up.

So far his car has gone low 9's@150 if I remember right. Plenty more in it too.
J

LTLHOMER

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Buy my th400. I think you'll run better with the 3-speed than the glide anyways.

I just want a glide cuz I plan on turning up the boost and a 2.54 first gear on a turbo car is counter-productive.

FANTAZ28

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go 400..... they are cheap, very strong and honestly i dont think you'll like a glide. i think it will feel lazy out the gates... a buddy of mine had a glide in his nitrous sbc third gen and it picked up alot by going to a 400 now it might've been a bad combo in the glide or what not but thats the only experiance i have with them..

SSwanner

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i think you will love the glide, probably help keep your front tires on the ground a little better and be a little quicker. the car being that light it will probably pick up a 1/10 or 2 on the kit and possibly n/a also. don't do the th400, its big, heavy, and eats up power. i say this only because i have one now i had a built 350 and it broke internals a few times and i went to this, next will def. be a glide

LTLHOMER

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Most builders don't see any real power loss between a th350 and th400 and the th400 is a much stronger piece...that's straight from Hutch's mouth and who's going to argue with that guy.

I think his car would slow down half a second on the motor going to a glide. Don't think it would leave very hard unless he really puts the squeeze to it with the glide either...th400 is really the best choice until like 9.0's in my humble opinion.

vmax1500

My goal is bottom 9's... I already went 142MPH the 1st time out with the car in 3000FT DA with only a 150HP shot... in really good air it went 147MPH... I'll be 150lbs lighter now, and will step up to a 250HP shot... my long term plan is to go with a direct port that should put me well into the 8's...

Ken95Z28

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I'm putting a glide in mine next year, some interesting facts about them. For one they are lighter then the TH400's almost 40-50 lbs lighter. They have very little drag in them (way less HP loss then the 400's).

A properly setup glide (rear gear and converter) can be made to hit almost as hard as the 400's. This depends if you have a tranny brake in them or not. Most of the people that I talked to say that you won't be disappointed once you go to them. Just give them time and work on the combination until you go it running just right.

vmax1500

That's exactly what I have been told by several people who experience with glides... I am going with a T-brake and a custom converter built for my application.... I will be out in 8 days at the J&P Reunion event in Toronto... I reallize and accept the fact that I may have to send back the converter to get tweaked just right.... One thing for sure, it should be way more pleasant to drive than with the A4 which had me shifting before the 60 foot mark... It's also bullet proof, my buddy runs low 7's with the same tranny! I'll keep you guys posted

LTLHOMER

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Keep us updated Andre. Run it on the motor once too just to get a good comparison for future swappers.

vmax1500

I'll do a couple motor passes for sure... I want to make sure everything is working ok before hitting it with a 250HP shot... here's an example of how short 1st gear is with my A4... the violence of the launch caused the camera to skip a couple of frames, but you can still see the shift light come right after the car leaves the line...
http://s97997631.onlinehome.us/temp/...2th%202006.wmv

Lafngas98Z

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Its a nitrous car, 98 Z28. Its going together as week speak. 408, glide, Neil Chance converter, narrowed 8.8, spool, 4.10's, coil overs, mini tubbed, 315 60 15 drag radials, 10 pt cage, Kooks 1 7/8-2" stepped headers, lots of weight reduction (the free stuff), thats about it, pretty much a budget build, all work done by me. Should run ok.

Justa Z

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T400 is a great trans for spray. Glids are good if the car is light enough or its a boost car

Lafngas98Z

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Is that so????

kp

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I have ran many of both, it really depends on what rpm range the car can deal with, how good the car hooks, horespower curve (peaky or not) and weight is a factor in all of it also.

Its always safer IMO to run a 400 on a small block car thats over 3000lbs to start with. As far as the weight the glide is lighter and takes less power but you ahve to be able to use the converter more then you would with a 400. I've ran glides in heavy cars and TH400s in light cars and vice versa. In the long run if both setups were optimized and overall car weight was the same I dont think one would really be any faster then the other. Lot of guys use glides simply because there is only one shift and its better to run consistant with, same with super gas and super comp. OTOH you dont see a lot of super stock or stock eliminator racers with powerglides, most are very lightweight 3 speed autos.

If you want a glide I say just do it, with a big hit off the line and 3300lbs or so it will most definately work just fine. But off the spray the car will most likely be a slug with a glide if the converter is optimized for nitrous. Tight converter + a glide is a boring 500' down the dragstrip

vmax1500

I am hoping for mid 10's NA and low 9's with a 250 shot... we'll find out soon... my tranny guy is really swamped right now with one of the biggest events in the country only a week away... it's 50/50 that it will done in time... worst case scenario I might have to wait another week or 2... My A4 converter was terribly tight on the motor only stalling at 3500RPM with a motor that only wakes up at 4500RPM and it still went 10.4@136 so I think it should be OK with the glide as it's set to stall at around 4500RPM NA and a little over 5000RPM with a 250 shot... My race weight will be down 150lbs which should help as well...

NA$TY-TA

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I love my Glide......
Im not a very light car thats 4 sure..... 3500lb race weight.
Carl Rossler Built. Chance Converter. 1.80 first gear. Trans brake.
3.73's and a 28" tire and the 3rd pass im outa gear..... With my Turbo works bad ***...

I do drive it on the street also.... almost everyday, 25 miles round trip to work if its not raining.

Kyle

next

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As KP said, it's all about optimizing which ever you go with.

I personally am a big fan of glides. I first put one in this car when it was a heads/cam on a 150 shot at 3220 raceweight. I tested quite a few converter stalls and a couple of gear changes before the car was dialed to run it's best. All of the wheelstand pics and vids I have are from the old H&C motor with the glide.

BTW, there's still a huge myth about the car needing to be under 3000 lbs or requiring tons of power for a glide to work.