Dragaholic

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It will be a whole year in November since I blew my motor. What a sad night that was. I can't complain though, I was very pleased with the results from what little I had done to the motor itself. The car ran a best of 10.34 on a cam only motor. There was a bit more to be squeezed out, but it was time to retire from the cam only game. The only thing that was touched on the bottom end of the motor was the rod bolts. The heads had never come off the motor. Oil starvation was what killed my engine. Wheelies sure are pretty and lots of fun, but didn't play a good role in the oiling system. I'm sure an aftermarket pan would of prevented all this.

Well, the time has come. Its time to bring her back to life. I need suggestions on what to build. I'll be starting from scratch. So I need so direction.

Block:
Crank:
Rods:
Pistons:
Cam:
Compression:
Stroke:
Bore:
Heads:
Injectors & fuel system: (currently have the Racetronix pump)
Intake: (currently have the FAST 90mm, NW 90mm TB, SLP 85mm MAF, SLP bellow, & TS&P 85mm lid)
Headers: (currently have Kooks 1 7/8")
Converter: (currently have Protorque 5500, may just need to have it redone for the added power)
Gear: (currently have a 4.56, but may be too much now)
Tire: (currently have 29.5x10.5x15 ET Drag)

...and to anything else that I may have left out, please include:

Lastly and most importantly, where to have it machined, assembled, and balanced by? (prefer locally)

BADFNZ

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Nate_Taufer

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I'd just build a stock cube LS2 with quality forged guts and then spray the **** out of it. you would have to restall to around 3500-3800 rpm or so If you planned on spraying a lot. You could run the L-92 heads and intake, just have some minor exhaust work done and run a small dome piston (+6cc).

I'm thinking 4.005" bore LS2 Block with Wiseco n2o pistons, Some callies compstar rods and a stock crank spraying around 300 or so single stage. With your raceweight you'd be looking at some insane e.t.'s...I'd guess You could be in the 9 teens. Just my $.02 though.

Nate

CamTom12

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Cause that makes a whole lot of sense.

Dragaholic:
I'd build a 402-408 LS2 with a procharger

At least, that's what I want to build whenever I get some money going, hahaha

tim99ws6

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high compression LME motor gets my choice. It seems they are building some top notch stuff lately

Best of luck on it man!

SMOKIN01TA

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oh dear lord please help us, here we go again , well i atleat enjoyed my year off from all the threads



we like giving you a hard time, im sure your used to it by now

CHRISPY

I think you should swap in a 4.8L from a truck and spray a 400 shot on it.

Coach 02 A3 Z/28

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Call LME already.

Coach

BADFNZ

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You don't know this guy's track record. He'd make a thread asking how to take a **** if his keyboard cord was long enough to reach the toilet.

CamTom12

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ok, that's pretty funny

tim99ws6

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Say what you will(and i know his history), he is a good guy at heart. Years back he was attempting to keep up with the big boys in the cam-only race. And oh yea, by the way, he is still #5 on the cam-only list, so he must have taken at least a couple of things to heart that the guys on here told him.

I'm personally happy he is finally gonna do something with the car. Even if he does post a few too many new threads, it's good to have another low 10sec car back up and running, and not growing weeds in his backyard

CamTom12

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Or having a low 10s car running mid 11s

I think that's worse than sitting in the weeds, hahaha

Dragaholic

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Nate_Taufer, I've been thinking about it and I'll probably end up staying naturally aspirated. I would love to throw some juice on it, but I guess I've always had a thing for all motor.

For some reason, I've had a 402 (LS2/4" stroke) in mind for quite a long time. Not sure why though. I don't want to mess with the bore because I really can't afford to resleeve the block. So I'll just stick to an oversized crank.

One important question I had, what would be the most stroke I could get out of the LS2 with the stock bore that would be worth doing?

So what's the deal with the L92 stuff? Is this the hot ticket now days? How do they compare to ETPs? I've had a few suggestions for the L92 heads, now are ya'll referring to stock L92 heads or ones that have been reworked?

CamTom12, not really looking to go forced induction. If I could, I'd go turbo, but its not in my budget.

tim99ws6, I've been getting lots of suggestions for LME, I wonder why? I've been out of the LS1 Tech scene for too long, so I'm not up to date on anything.

SMOKIN01TA & CHRISPY, how did I know you guys were gona come on here and say something smart? Give it a rest already.

Coach 02 A3 Z/28, I haven't made any calls yet because I've been so lately with work along with many other things, but why do yourself along with others highly recommend LME? If you could give me a little insight on them, I'd appreciate it.

BADFNZ, why does it really matter what I post or how many times I post? Is it really that hard to just look past my threads. Its been a long damn time, I didn't expect to come back here and get **** from you guys. Lets be men here for a change.

tim99ws6, thank you! I appreciate the kind/positive words. I wanted to continue with the cam only battle, but wheelies blew my motor. An aftermarket pan would of prevented that or a dry sump system. Things happen for a reason though. I can't say that I would of taken the title, but I would of gave it all I got and I know there were a few things I could of done to get there.

Either way, I'm sure the car is gona haul *** when all said and done. Just have to decide on what to build.

Thanks all for the help so far.

Dragaholic

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I don't want to mess with the bore of the block mainly because I can't afford to resleeve. What would be the max stroke I could go that would be beneficial and worth doing on a 4" bore?

Is there anything bigger than the LS2 as far as bore goes besides the C5R and LS7 that's aluminum AND a LSX based engine?

Lastly, I've gotten recommendations for L92 heads and ETPs as well. Which would be better as in produce more power? Cost difference?

n2o

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The ETP 265s and the LS7 heads are pretty neck and neck from what I've read. Although, I figure with a 402 you will probaly want something like a ET245. What are you planning on for an intake? Ported fast 90? Sheetmetal? Wilson has one that is coming out, but it is gonna be 2-3k. Most importantly are you going to use a power adder? If you go with a 402 n/a I would consider a solid roller. Whatever you decide good luck and get some results up.

Dragaholic

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ETP 265s and stock LS7 or reworked LS7 heads? I was recommended the 265s for a 402 setup, would those be too much? As far as intake, well, I wanted to reuse my FAST 90mm, NW 90mm TB, SLP 85mm MAF, and TS&P 85mm lid. I won't be using a power adding, naturally aspirated. More than likely it'll be solid.

n2o

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You should talk to someone with more experience on this matter. But I'm pretty sure that you are going to leave a good bit on the table with the fast even with the et 245s.
This thread has some interesting points on intake and head combos.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...hlight=etp+265

JL ws-6

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If the local builder thing isn't a nessassary requirment, give eastside a call. they just got done building my alum 402, et 240 headed motor, you're looking for a more strictly race car I assume, that beign the case you'd probably want a motor like mine but solid roller, and a sheet metal style intake if N/A is how you want to run it. If you're looking to run it on the bottle, a setup like mine with a solid roller, or even hydraulic cam and the intake you have would be perfect.

Give them a call, I'm sure that they can build you a motor that will meet whatever your goals are.

slow trap

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lme did have an aluminum ls2 402 allready built that would handle a 300 shot.with say tfs 225 heads and the giant cam like someone just posted results for 540-550 rw on motor and with a 250-300 you would be strolling.even on motor alone you would be in movin with a motor that don't have to spin to the moon to make decent power.

Dragaholic

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If I went with a LS2 block using the stock bore (4") and stroked it out to a 402 cu in. (4" stroke), what would be the best heads to use?

What about internals (valvetrain, crank, rods, pistons, etc.) This will be a drag racing setup naturally aspirated.