speedo

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Search sucks ***** latley....so what are peeps doing? My concern is we won't get it back in.

It's being tig welded so should be ok to leave in right?

ON a different question how are people cutting the holes in the dash for the cage?

MetallicaMatt

iTrader: (19)

you don't need to cut a hole in the dash for a 6 point?

When I welded mine in this summer, we set the main hoop where we wanted it, and got the rear bars where we wanted them, and tacked them onto the main hoop. Make sure they are strong tacks!

then we leaned the main hoop towards the front of the car so that he could weld all the way around. Be careful! go slow! the tubes will move under their own weight and heat. We had a guy hold them in place

then we leaned everything back, welded the rears and main hoop to the floor then we did the door bars

nice and slick and still have a head liner

RAGENZ28

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You can leave it in, what I did on another car was put a sheet of aluminum with a damp piece of card board under it, which is only like 1/4" thick so you can pull it out easy and put the bar up nice and high.

It will keep the sparks from getting on the headliner or melting through, damp card board will cool the sparks or spatter and the aluminum is a back up to make sure nothing gets through.

Cutting the dash you can use a little die grinder or dremel, something like that.

y2k_ta

iTrader: (80)

Chuck the headliner...it's just extra weight you'll have to drag down the strip

speedo

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Come on mine is custom **** headliner..... Can't get rid of that...

No I just have a six point bar right now I was concidering just doing a whole cage maybe cause I may be getting a new setup for next year that could plant me into the nines.

Thanks for info guys I will run it by my bar putter inner.

RAGENZ28

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You already have the 6 point or are getting it? If you plan to run 9's I would do the cage now and be able to use 1 5/8 tubing and save weight vs. a 1 3/4 roll bar to 1 5/8 cage conversion.

speedo

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Yea I just got my 6pt yesterday so its a done deal.

Dang I wish I would of knew this before....... ah well I will just play it by ear I am sure I can run high nines on a 6pt for awhile in these parts for awhile hell I have been running high tens for 2 years with no bar....

JL ws-6

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FYI, when I did my 6 pt last year we measured the weight of a piece of 1 3/4 tubing and a piece of 1 5/8 tubing, both one foot long. The difference was .1 of a lb. We figured there was about 60 feet of tubing in my whole 6 pt, so that means when we're done adding on to the 6 pt it's gonna end up weighing 6 lbs more then it would have had we dont all of it in 1 5/8 tubing.

6 lbs to me isn't worth cutting the 6 pt out, nor was it worth building the 6 pt out of 1 5/8 tubing and possibly having a tech guy bitch about it.

If you need to add onto it later, it's o.k. People will know you added onto it, but screw it if they say something, you've progressed from where you were, should tell them you've been at it for a while if anything.

Fireball

iTrader: (21)

Assuming everything is chromemoly:
density of steel is 0.284 lbs/in^3
1 3/4" x .083 = 1.481 lbs/ft
1 5/8" x .083 = 1.394 lbs/ft

I know a full 10-pt cage we constructed weighed 74 lbs, so there's about 53 ft

JL ws-6

iTrader: (50)

Huh, the weight we figured for my 6 pt from the 1 3/4 must have been wrong, I do know swapping in a set of kirkey seats and lw carpet made the rollbar a total wash weight wise.

Your math is dead on what we found when measuring the weight of the 2 one foot lenth's of pipe, just a touch under a tenth of a lb per foot.

Good stuff to know

Fireball

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We had the full 10-pt out of the car and set it on corner scales. came in right at 74lbs with net. but the net is pretty light

JL ws-6

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Good to know, I was worried about finishing the 6 pt off adding too much weight, goal is to get to 3200 for next year, sounds like it's getting more likly

chuckyt1

iTrader: (33)

I pulled my headliner for the install. When I put it back in it didn't go so well. Now I have no headliner...

NHRAMAN

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****........

ssracer8

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I just finished my Wolfe 6 pt. CM a couple weeks ago. I took everything out including the headliner. I tacked the hoop and back bars in the car then pulled the whole works out and tigged it up an the bench. Then I painted it and put it in the car as one peice and finished the side bars and plates. I think it worked out really well, plus I got a good paint job on the bar. The headliner slid in from the back pulling forward (a little tight but it worked).

Cheers fellow MN boy.