jthunderz28

My daily driver 2002 WS6: 104k miles on the clock, 6 speed with a lid ,GMMG catback and suspension stuff being the only mods going into this.

I decided to hold off on getting heads because it was just not in the budget, regardless of installing new lifters.

Ok so many of you remembered the car had issues on the baseline dyno. It was falling flat at 3800 RPM with a max reading of around 250 rwhp on all 3 pulls. Something was off and Bill had suspected a collapsing lifter causing valve issues.

Well Billy and crew at ForceFed performance tore into it on Tuesday and buttoned up everything late last night. It produced pretty good results considering how small this cam is without any supporting mods outside of a lid and catback.

Final numbers were 364.9 rwhp and 345.7 torque.

With headers and a retune I think it would be close to 390 rwhp which isn't bad at all for such a small cam.
Overall I wish...wait for it...wait for it.... I would've went with a little bit bigger cam, LOL!. It probably would be tough to pass smog with any bigger of a cam. This one has a little bit of lope but it would've been nice to have more lope for enjoyment purposes alone.

I can't figure out how to post a PDF file to show you guys the dyno chart

I told myself I would be happy anywhere between 360-370 rwhp/torque going into this. So yeah I'm happy. Decent power and it'll pass smog easily out here in Commiefornia.

Thanks again to Geoff over at EPS for all of his advice and time in helping me select the right cam to create good power on stock manifolds.

******UPDATE 6/28/12: DYNO CHART SHOWING CAM ONLY BEFORE HEADERS THEN AFTER HEADERS********



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Mike Morris

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Nice job!

jthunderz28

Thanks Mike, I was a bit nervous that the stock injectors wouldn't be enough, but they held up fine.

*02WS6TURK*

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Just saw your other thread with the results. Very nice!

Patrick G

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Nice comeback. Good results. That cam is really nice. If you decide to upgrade to 243 heads at a later date, it will work really well with them.

thunderstruck507

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What ended up being the issue?

jthunderz28

Thanks guys. And Pat, I may end up getting 243 heads around tax time. That should push it close to 400rwhp with some ported heads.

We didn't really find out for sure. But when he had tuned it the power readings were smooth throughout without dropping off like it had been doing.

A nice flat torque curve too. I suspected it may have been a collapsing lifter messing with a valve but the stock ones looked fine when we pulled them. I replaced the lifters, and every seal and gasket from here to the moon as well as all the standard parts(LS6 oil pump/timing chain/ etc) to replace to do a cam swap the right way.

BAMALS1

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Strong numbers for a "small" cam!

*02WS6TURK*

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Nice choice of ride BTW

Johnnystock

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a bigger cam would not be that much better without headers. You can break the 400 mark with heads/complete boltons.

jthunderz28

Gracias!



From a lopey idle standpoint and not a performance standpoint a little more lope would have been nice to listen to.

T.Man

Don't need a huge cam for a "lopey" idle. Just ask your tuner to lower your idle a bit.

Nice results man. Glad to see you got things sorted out

gsd2000

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did this pass smog?

jthunderz28

Yup! passed smog about 3 months ago the legit way.
I know for many folks having a daily driver cam that passes smog and makes good power is a plus.

I then added BBK Lt's and a catted y pipe.

With headers and the retune it made 390/365. A nice set of heads and i would hope for 420 rwhp.

The best i have done at the track so far is 12.8@111 with a below avg 60 ft for the 555r's.

GA95DCMSS

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Damn, passes smog?! I'm running the same cam, but in a LQ4 with L92 heads and on a 114 LSA. Gives me hope for passing emissions in GA. We run almost identical times so far too lol. Good luck with it, as it should be pretty strong all he way to redline. I know mine is.

masnart2000

Nice numbers for stock injectors!

garygnu

yep some 243 would work great.if you can afford some AFR 210 you will pick up more power and mpg.

americanbadass

Nice. I was at ForceFed a few weeks ago with my car club. A stock A4 ls2 gto put down 380.

jthunderz28

I'm starting to think forcefed has a happy dyno. Stock a4 ls2 with 380??
Lol, regardless they do a helluva job.

A dyno is just a tool right? Track numbers are real world numbers.

jthunderz28

updated with dyno chart, the headers really helped her breathe. I can only imagine what some ported 243's would do.

Maybe 415 rwhp???