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Old 07-04-2012, 11:41 AM   #1
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Ls3 416
Tea tfs 245
Eps 243 251 .628 .632 113+2
11.2 compression
Fast 102/102
1 7/8 LTs offroad xpipe
M6 with 10bolt
UD pulley
Gz vacuum pump(10inches)
Stock rockers
549rwhp 479 rwtrq
Overall I'm happy with it. Its night and day difference from the h/c ls1. Dyno was on a dyno jet at eps through full exhaust with only 120 miles on engine. I will dyno again after a few thousand miles to see how much I gain. I can also pull more vacuum is nessacery. Drivability is pretty Nice also. Thanks Geoff for all the time and phone calls! Ill post dyno sheet soon.

New #'s 566/496
Pulls to 7k
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BTR 3/8 pushrods
Ati balancer
14" vacuum
And kooks race bullets
Going speed density real soon. Maxing out maf at 6500 rpm

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Old 07-04-2012, 03:10 PM   #2
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strong number !any dyno sheet ?
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:56 PM   #3
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Thanks, the first dyno sheet lost tack signal. The other one is in mph. Pulls were to 7k
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Nice!! Congrats
Hope mine does similar, I know I got a 9" but I also got 12-1 comp and slightly larger cam. We shall see bud
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Ya done good! Those are very real world numbers!

Holds on nice after peak torque, that is making fun power.
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:52 PM   #6
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I think the numbers are good. Overall I was hoping for more torque but I'm satisfied. It's definitly a solid steet car. I'll be adding a plate kit(speed desity also)soon. Gonna hit it with a 150 if the pump keeps up. After it cools off and gets a few thousand miles on the motor I'll dyno again. I may have a race coming up with a 13 gt500. Should be interesting!
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Your pull stopped before power peak. Engine woulda made at least 555, maybe 560 with more rpm. You need to pull it to 72-7400 or change your cam, the setup isnt optimal as is. Good #s though
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Old 07-07-2012, 08:34 AM   #8
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We were thing the same thing after the first pull. But the graph showed a small drop after peak hrsp. We never moved the limiter from the previous tune(7k). Now in curious what pulls to 7300 could have shown. Dietcoke you have a awesome combo and I read through your threads throughout my build. Any thing you see that could increase my trq and maybe more peak hrsp? Thanks.
Timing was at 28-29
Afr was near 13 on the dyno but my (innovate)gage reads alittle fatter 12.5
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You should make some pulls without the belt on the vacuum pump to see how much it is helping. I've been debating getting one but its a pretty big price tag for a whole kit. Nice numbers tho!
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We were thing the same thing after the first pull. But the graph showed a small drop after peak hrsp. We never moved the limiter from the previous tune(7k). Now in curious what pulls to 7300 could have shown. Dietcoke you have a awesome combo and I read through your threads throughout my build. Any thing you see that could increase my trq and maybe more peak hrsp? Thanks.
Timing was at 28-29
Afr was near 13 on the dyno but my (innovate)gage reads alittle fatter 12.5
Every combo is different. For example mine only takes 18 degrees of timing on e85 . That alone blows people's minds. The graph looks really healthy, but I'd pull it higher just to see. If you have room left on your vac pump, shoot for 12 inches of vacuum at least as well, few ponies to be had there. Usually max power is 12-14 inches
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Nice!!! TEA heads rule!
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Im in the process of installing a the GZ pump while still keeping the airconditioning. Any numbers without the pump or at lower vacum.
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550 rwhp 512 rwtrq.
11.23@130mph on a 1.70 sixty
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I guess we should have pulled alittle timing to see if it responded. I'm gonna set the vac pump on 12". Also orange juice I had to move my dryer to between my battery post. Just go to a hydrolic hose shop they can extend the the hoses. I'm not chasing number but I spent a nice bit of money on this combo. If it can make 575rwhp 500rwtrq I'll be satisfied. The parts are there. It just needs alittle tweeking. More miles, more vacuum, and cooler weather and I should get there. It never ends!
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You will probably need a smaller cog pulley on the GZ with an UD. I needed a smaller pulley to make more the 10 psi, since the underdrive spins it 25% slower then its designed, for what its worth. GZ will sell you the parts you need.
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Nice build. Good numbers! I was wondering how TFS 245 heads would perform on a sub 427ci LSX engine.
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Wont make any power on an xpipe dual exhaust.
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I guess we should have pulled alittle timing to see if it responded. I'm gonna set the vac pump on 12". Also orange juice I had to move my dryer to between my battery post. Just go to a hydrolic hose shop they can extend the the hoses. I'm not chasing number but I spent a nice bit of money on this combo. If it can make 575rwhp 500rwtrq I'll be satisfied. The parts are there. It just needs alittle tweeking. More miles, more vacuum, and cooler weather and I should get there. It never ends!
Thats what I ended up doing but had to loose the cruise control.
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My vette gained 11rwhp thru cutouts on my 403? Longtubes and Xpipe.
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My vette gained 11rwhp thru cutouts on my 403? Longtubes and Xpipe.
What kind of crappy mufflers were you using
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