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Old 03-17-2005, 08:58 PM
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Made 403.30hp, 380.36#s tq. Hp peaked at 6200rpms and carried over 400hp to the 6600 limiter. This was with STOCK TB, STOCK pulley, STOCK MAF, STOCK bellow pipe, STOCK thermostat and engine temps. NGKTR6s gapped at .032. After revising the tune some for nitrous, the motor still made 399.89hp and 374.19tq with only 24 degrees of timing.

Then it made 546rwhp and 553.35#s tq with the NX 150 with a safe air fuel ratio in the high 11s from 6k up. Pulled the plug, checked it, looked fine. Now just need a few revisons for the idle and its a done deal. So for those who doubt the Magic Stick, with a ported TB, UD Pulley and a smooth bellow it would easily make 415hp and close to 400#s tq, just like Jason at TSP said it would. These numbers are all SAE. Gonna try a few more pulls tomorrow to make over 400hp with the timing down at 24 degrees.

Special thanks to Jay and MIKE at G-Force for putting the time and attention to detail for all this work. They will always get my business.
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Congrats man those are awesome numbers. I'm trying to talk my buddy into getting a cam to compliment the nitrous we put on. He thinks he'll blow the motor up but I told him it's all in the tune. Are you on a stock bottom-end?
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OH YEAH, it made 300#s tq at only 2800 rpms, made 310#s at 3k, 345#s at 3600, so don't give me the NO low end torque BS either. Mike will post the charts.

Mike, setup a chart with the final motor pull, the final NOS pull and the air fuel ratio on the same chart and post it here. Keep in mind the final motor pull was tuned for spray.
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Stock 99 motor. Did install the Walbro 255l fuel pump though. It made a wide flat tq curve, didn't really need to rev it like we thought we would. With the timing at 28 degrees it made 400hp at only 6k and held it to 6600 without ever nosing over. I definetly think this thing would make some good HP with some ported heads.
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Also, STD HP was 414.58. This was with pretty good air. 69-70 degrees, 29.89 in-hg baro, humidity was 23%.
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Congrats!!

Very nice numbers, even more so with all those stock parts.
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those numbers are nice. you could probably get another 10rwhp with a asp pulley and ported TB.
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I will post dyno graphs in the morn.
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Congrats on the numbers.. Good to see more people getting this cam, I love mine..
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Good results! Thats pretty good for the '99 heads too! (Secretly prefers the '241' castings)
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Mike youll be seeing my business as soon as a get an LS6 intake. For now ill be driving with my MS3 untuned.

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N/A numbers look good for your mods. The only thing I'm surprise of is that you only gained 173rwtq on the 150 shot. I would have thought you would have made a little more than that.
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This was with 853 heads and going through a full Borla catback with the 2 3/4" plate in it. No CUT OUTs or True duals, this is how it will be driven daily. Also still had the K&N filter in the box. Yeah next round of mods will be a good ported TB, an ASP pulley and a smooth bellows pipe and a revision on the tune, maybe it will hit 415hp NA with a nitrous tune. Now if Mike can just get it to idle. LOL
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Originally Posted by Vortech5300
This was with 853 heads and going through a full Borla catback with the 2 3/4" plate in it. No CUT OUTs or True duals, this is how it will be driven daily. Also still had the K&N filter in the box. Yeah next round of mods will be a good ported TB, an ASP pulley and a smooth bellows pipe and a revision on the tune, maybe it will hit 415hp NA with a nitrous tune. Now if Mike can just get it to idle. LOL
LOL, I want to retune mine soon, I have a hanging idle coming to a stop, and it still searchs for a idle too. Still I love this cam.
Mike
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I wanna see your #'s with some 4.10's, good either way, but I'd be interested to see how much they would drop.
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Great numbers with your stock parts; my 2003 Z06 put down 449RWHP with all the goodies and stock 243 heads with the MS3 cam.

Going to re-tune and go for more in the next few months.

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Nice numbers!
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Congrats on the setup! 6200 peak is still very useable (not too high!).
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wow.
my tsp 233/239 has
a similiar tq curve..

we both have 340tq @ 3500rpm
and 360tq @ 4000rpm.

yes
nice #'s
and tsp rules.


<-----also no tb, intake or pulley



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