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Old 09-02-2010, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
No balancer.
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Old 09-02-2010, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by edwardzracing
Just spent the last roughly 2 hours reading through the entire thread. Great stuff. Makes you realize how much work goes into a project that's designed to haul the mail in 7.9x seconds. Major props to you guys for going through hell and sticking with it. No way I could do it. I hope it eventually smooths out and the cost of repairs goes down and the amount of fun and actually enjoying the car goes up. Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for sharing all the information. Best of luck and keep up the great work. Subscribed for all future updates.
It takes a village, literally. I'm glad you enjoyed read. Thanks for the props.

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Cobra, I would like to give my 2 cents. There will be nothing holding those dowels in. Both times my bolts backed out I found the dowel pin in the bottom of the pan. They were first to come out before the bolts.

The bolts will be wired and can't back out, but the pins are pressed in and still vulnerable to vibrating out. Maybe some type of epoxy can be used

Just a thought.
I was thinking the same thing on both counts. I believe that epoxy is the plan.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller


I was thinking the same thing on both counts. I believe that epoxy is the plan.
Use Loctite retaining compound...I used 609

Best options are:
603—For close-fitting parts. Fills spaces up to 0.005".

609—Fills spaces up to 0.005".
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Do you think you really need three dowel pins in it?
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Originally Posted by Fireball
Use Loctite retaining compound...I used 609

Best options are:
603—For close-fitting parts. Fills spaces up to 0.005".

609—Fills spaces up to 0.005".
Didn't realize there were different ones besides red and blue.

Originally Posted by W8N2SQZ
Do you think you really need three dowel pins in it?
No I don't. I'm thinking one more is good.
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I use the "green" loctite at my work... german's approved it for an assembly process, it must work

All that aside, it does work good, once that dries, parts don't come apart anymore without serious heat applied.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Didn't realize there were different ones besides red and blue.


No I don't. I'm thinking one more is good.

that stuff I listed isn't threadlocker...its a retaining compound designed for that specific purpose...
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It's too bad you can't run a full size balancer.
A HUGE majority of timing chain failures seem to be directly related to running an underdrive balancer or none at all.
It was a PITA, but I was able to sneak a -10 drain on either side of my ATI balancer.
If I were to do it again, I would have started off with a truck style ATI balancer to give me a little more room to work with.
Just my $.02
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Balancer is a must IMO. I'd do what needs to be done to get one on there. Cap off the drain holes, move them whatever... sucks I'm sure, but I'd do it, along with wiring the nuts, and the green retaining compound on the additional pins, AND red loctite on the bolts.

After a mess like that I'd be taking NO chances.
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I've got twins with -10 drains in a MUUUUCH smaller engine bay and I was still able to run an ATI balancer
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Look out for that oil pump.

If it is harmonics, that oil pump will be next!

Same thing kept happening to my buds 4banger. But it was destroying the oil pump.

Threw in the fluiddampner and all has been awesome for the past 4years.
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Wanted to post a little update.
Motor Status: Head with the broken valve is being repaired.

I finally got my hands on a lobe catalog from Comp Cams and we selected a slightly different cam. It will now be a 250/250 .672/.672 113 +2. It's pretty much the same but with about .050 more lift for ***** and giggles as the valvetrain can take it.

We also found that 2 of the inconel valves had the tips mushroomed. Gotta figure out why but leaning towards defective. This would cause a great deal of harmonics as the rocker was smacking the valve like a hammer.

Transmission Status: En route to Rossler for pump and shaft modification so that the transmission cooling circuit works again.

Converter: At FTI getting a sprag put back in it. Spragless makes too much heat.

Big Stuff 3: Was sent back to Big Stuff to have it checked out as the WBO2 was giving us some issues. While it was there, the intention was to have it upgraded with some additional inputs, 3 step and individual EGT's. We got the quote back for a little over $4,000 just for upgrades. I started doing a little hunting around and found out that the better way to go is to use a RacePak so we got some quotes on that and it was even more money. I got to talking with Steve and we decided that now was the time to make a change before he got in any deeper. So that's what he is doing.

Holley Dominator EFI is on order. The interface is beautiful and modern and it will have all the features that we need for under $4K total and he can sell the BS3 to recoup about half of that.
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I hope the Holley EFI works well for you. I still use BS3, but they need to work out the wonky software stuff.
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Damn I just read through this entire thread, can't wait to get home to see the videos. Car is a monster, can't wait to see it's return.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Holley Dominator EFI is on order. The interface is beautiful and modern and it will have all the features that we need for under $4K total and he can sell the BS3 to recoup about half of that.
I have been messing with the software for the Dominator. Very nice! Much nicer interface then the BS3.

I priced everything out on Summit's website and was pretty surprised cost wise. I think I am going that way also.
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Originally Posted by JOHNBOY66
I have been messing with the software for the Dominator. Very nice! Much nicer interface then the BS3.

I priced everything out on Summit's website and was pretty surprised cost wise. I think I am going that way also.
I wouldn't buy it from someone like Summit. They are just a parts house that will offer no support at all and direct you to Holley direct. Using a distributor that is familiar with the device and has installed it on a few different platforms seems like a better way to go IMO. Let me know if you want the name of the person that we are working with. He seems to have been involved in the design of the thing or atleast beta testing for it and has installed it several times.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
I wouldn't buy it from someone like Summit. They are just a parts house that will offer no support at all and direct you to Holley direct. Using a distributor that is familiar with the device and has installed it on a few different platforms seems like a better way to go IMO. Let me know if you want the name of the person that we are working with. He seems to have been involved in the design of the thing or atleast beta testing for it and has installed it several times.
I was not planing on buying from Summit. Just easy to work up the price on their site.
I just got a quote back from Moore that was just as good. I would rather buy from them for the reasons you listed.
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That's who he is dealing with. So far everything is going as promised. He got all the harnesses, power module and widebands. The computers are 1-2 weeks out from what I have understood.

Also, Steve has decided to switch over to a 58X reluctor and 4X cam sprocket.
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Transmission's back from Rossler. Motor should be back together next week.
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PLEASE.... PLEASE keep us updated on how the Holley system works out. There's little info out there on that right now, and it's something that I have been looking into, and several others I know of are as well.

From the reports I have read, it should be just as described, easy to use and have all the features that anyone would need..

I am looking forward to feedback on it and the results, and THANK YOU forbeing one of the first to take the leap to it!


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