my home built gt-88 setup
03-15-2010, 01:38 PM
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my home built gt-88 setup here are some pics of the gt88 setup ive been making at my workshop please feel free to leave feedback! thanks to josh at kentucky turbo for all his help and great deals on the parts! Looking to make 1000Hp while keeping the build costs down with my own fabrication and choice of bang for the buck parts....
major parts list:
kurt urban built 402 (callies crank, compstar rods, and diamond pistons)
317 heads done by AES engine
finish line 4L80e level 5
gt88 turbo t6 1.08 ar
jgs 50mm wastegate
jgs bov
4" full exhaust
big stuff 3
ebay intercooler 4" core
bmr kmember
Ls6 intake
new baer decela rotors all corners with hawk pads stainless lines, no abs with line lock.
billet specialies Fbody streetlites
still deciding on rear end and fuel setup
SUGGESTIONS PLEASE deciding between e-85 or regular gas.....
mostly a street car but will be fabbing a cage so shes track legal here in the near future! waiting on my new hydraulic bender to come in
some pics: (wish i could use photobucket....)
major parts list:
kurt urban built 402 (callies crank, compstar rods, and diamond pistons)
317 heads done by AES engine
finish line 4L80e level 5
gt88 turbo t6 1.08 ar
jgs 50mm wastegate
jgs bov
4" full exhaust
big stuff 3
ebay intercooler 4" core
bmr kmember
Ls6 intake
new baer decela rotors all corners with hawk pads stainless lines, no abs with line lock.
billet specialies Fbody streetlites
still deciding on rear end and fuel setup
SUGGESTIONS PLEASE deciding between e-85 or regular gas.....
mostly a street car but will be fabbing a cage so shes track legal here in the near future! waiting on my new hydraulic bender to come in
some pics: (wish i could use photobucket....)
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03-15-2010, 04:01 PM
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thanks! it helps when you have all the right tools a lift and a expert for a teacher... i could have never done it this well by myself. ( I GIVE MAD PROPS to the guys doing this on jackstands in their garage!) I have alot more pics of the crossover, turbo mount, merge, frame rail cutting, motormount relocation, and others ill be posting once i get some time.
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here are some more pics sorry they are only of decent quality.. only digital cameri i have is my iphone... ill continue posting as i go further along... still waiting on he delivery of the new shortblock.... I encourage criticizm! good or bad!
what do you guys think of the astmospherical vent on the wastegate? is it going to be rediculously loud? im thinking about runnin it into the dp..
what do you guys think of the astmospherical vent on the wastegate? is it going to be rediculously loud? im thinking about runnin it into the dp..
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thanks guys its a bmr kmember turbo application.. although it gives alot more room im not happy with how the 4" goes past the starter therfore were working on relocating the motor mount as we speak since its currently cut off lol ill post pics when its all done theres lots more to come! hoping to have intercooler piped motor mount re installed frame rail notched for compressor outlet and aluminum radiator hoses fabbed this wk.. its hard only working on it like 18 hrs a week max
03-16-2010, 01:11 AM
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I think you should go with e-85 because it's equivalent to 110 octane race gas and it's cheap. Everything about e-85 is alout better except your limted pumps. Build looks good hope everything goes well.
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I am building almost an identical engine, 408 with a gt-88 and all the supporting mods, how ever I only have a factory computer instead of a BS3.
I have tallked to a well reputable local dyno tuner about the fuel system I should have to support 1200+ fwhp and he said that regular pump gas isn't going to get me there, but if I switch to E85 that would allow me to turn up the boost and 1200hp wont be a problem.
120 lb/hr injectors is what he recommended with E85, but thought they would be very difficult to tune with regular pump gas (because of the lower pulse width required)
I'll b watching this thread to see what you decide on, good luck.
I have tallked to a well reputable local dyno tuner about the fuel system I should have to support 1200+ fwhp and he said that regular pump gas isn't going to get me there, but if I switch to E85 that would allow me to turn up the boost and 1200hp wont be a problem.
120 lb/hr injectors is what he recommended with E85, but thought they would be very difficult to tune with regular pump gas (because of the lower pulse width required)
I'll b watching this thread to see what you decide on, good luck.
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thanks guys its a bmr kmember turbo application.. although it gives alot more room im not happy with how the 4" goes past the starter therfore were working on relocating the motor mount as we speak since its currently cut off lol ill post pics when its all done theres lots more to come! hoping to have intercooler piped motor mount re installed frame rail notched for compressor outlet and aluminum radiator hoses fabbed this wk.. its hard only working on it like 18 hrs a week max
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I am building almost an identical engine, 408 with a gt-88 and all the supporting mods, how ever I only have a factory computer instead of a BS3.
I have tallked to a well reputable local dyno tuner about the fuel system I should have to support 1200+ fwhp and he said that regular pump gas isn't going to get me there, but if I switch to E85 that would allow me to turn up the boost and 1200hp wont be a problem.
120 lb/hr injectors is what he recommended with E85, but thought they would be very difficult to tune with regular pump gas (because of the lower pulse width required)
I'll b watching this thread to see what you decide on, good luck.
I have tallked to a well reputable local dyno tuner about the fuel system I should have to support 1200+ fwhp and he said that regular pump gas isn't going to get me there, but if I switch to E85 that would allow me to turn up the boost and 1200hp wont be a problem.
120 lb/hr injectors is what he recommended with E85, but thought they would be very difficult to tune with regular pump gas (because of the lower pulse width required)
I'll b watching this thread to see what you decide on, good luck.
is yours going to be a street car or track only? if i go the e85 route 160lb injectors will be used 120's will be maxxed on e85 with the fuel requirements of this motor... ( according to my friend john meeny) also what pump or pumps are you thinking for fuel delivery? and i also agree it should take you to the 1200 hp mark if the tuner is good..
03-16-2010, 11:19 AM
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03-16-2010, 11:22 AM
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I'd stay away from that E85 stuff, first time you get a tank of fuel that's got a bunch of water in it (since E85 absorbs water really REALLY fast) you won't be very happy.
That stuff is a double edged sword, and I know a couple people that got cut on the backside of it now.
That stuff is a double edged sword, and I know a couple people that got cut on the backside of it now.
03-16-2010, 12:37 PM
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thanks whitelightning ill try it out gotta get a photobucket first... and ive heard the water in the e85 issue as well.. but ive also heard how good it works to.. there are alot of ups and downs with it though...
mg89ta Thanks! , im in chicago il
mg89ta Thanks! , im in chicago il
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My car will be both a street and strip car, but primarily a street car.
As far as the 120's vs. the 160's, I think you are right, the 120's would be maxxed out. By my calculations, 1200 fwhp with E85 would require 138.61 lbs/hr @ 43.5psi (3 bar), or 119.4 lbs/hr @ 58 psi (4 bar), so yeah, the 120's would be maxxed.
As far as the fuel pump(s), I have 2 - 255 lph walbros right now, but I think I need more. Again, by my calculations, 1200 fwhp on E85 would require a supply of 503 lph (133 gph), so my 2 - 255's are a little to close for comfort.
I have also heard the E85 and water rumor. They is one local guy with a turbocharged fox body mustang that has 724 rwhp and runs nothing but E85. He has had this combination for 2 years and is street driven on a regular basis. I have talked to him about my E85/pump gas project and he has never mentioned anything about a water issue. Also 2 local reputable dyno's have HIGHLY recommended E85 with boost, and mentioned nothing about the ill effects of it. This really proves nothing, but I trust these 3 people enough I will bet my engine on it.
As you can probably tell, I do not speak from personal experience on all of this, just research I've done. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me, for both cases.
As far as the 120's vs. the 160's, I think you are right, the 120's would be maxxed out. By my calculations, 1200 fwhp with E85 would require 138.61 lbs/hr @ 43.5psi (3 bar), or 119.4 lbs/hr @ 58 psi (4 bar), so yeah, the 120's would be maxxed.
As far as the fuel pump(s), I have 2 - 255 lph walbros right now, but I think I need more. Again, by my calculations, 1200 fwhp on E85 would require a supply of 503 lph (133 gph), so my 2 - 255's are a little to close for comfort.
I have also heard the E85 and water rumor. They is one local guy with a turbocharged fox body mustang that has 724 rwhp and runs nothing but E85. He has had this combination for 2 years and is street driven on a regular basis. I have talked to him about my E85/pump gas project and he has never mentioned anything about a water issue. Also 2 local reputable dyno's have HIGHLY recommended E85 with boost, and mentioned nothing about the ill effects of it. This really proves nothing, but I trust these 3 people enough I will bet my engine on it.
As you can probably tell, I do not speak from personal experience on all of this, just research I've done. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me, for both cases.
